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Offline Justo Miranda

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German rockets pictures
« on: October 07, 2008, 11:47:33 am »
From "Secret weapons of the Third Reich"
by Leslie E. Simon
WE INC Publishers 1971

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Re: German rockets pictures
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2008, 11:49:43 am »
From "Secret weapons of the Third Reich"
by Leslie E. Simon
WE INC Publishers 1971
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Re: German rockets pictures
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2008, 11:50:52 am »
From "Secret weapons of the Third Reich"
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Re: German rockets pictures
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2008, 03:42:31 am »
The photo N°6 could be a fanal to all admirers of a manned A-4/V2,
I think. It looks, as there is a hump on the nose, which could be interpreted
as a canopy ..   ???
It takes a long time, before all mistakes are made ...

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Re: German rockets pictures
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2008, 07:01:07 am »
The photo N°6 could be a fanal to all admirers of a manned A-4/V2,
I think. It looks, as there is a hump on the nose, which could be interpreted
as a canopy ..   ???

Unlikely. IF that is a canopy, rather than a blemish or some other mark, then the cockpit would intrude into the alcohol tank.
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Re: German rockets pictures
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2008, 07:43:52 am »
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Re: German rockets pictures
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2008, 02:39:42 am »
Hi justo...many thank for sharing this "jewels" of reich...

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Re: German rockets pictures
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2008, 03:15:03 am »
most fascinating is the stuff on right next big A-4 Model 
A Rocket with Ringwing !

there allot Rheinbote variants on right
can be this ring wing also a version of Rheinbote ?
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Re: German rockets pictures
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2008, 07:57:33 am »
High manoeuvrability device for Wasserfall similar to the "RAZON" american bombs

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Re: German rockets pictures
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2008, 01:30:40 pm »
I'd say Roc, rather than RAZON.

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Re: German rockets pictures
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2009, 06:32:56 am »
Hi everybody

The big thing in the background of the Enzian. What is it ? A flying wing ?
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Here the book
German research in world war II: an analysis of the conduct of research
Leslie E. Simon
http://books.google.com/books
Leslie Simon also shows some bombs (?models?) in his book ?
Maybe someone can show us these pictures ?

BTW I am also searching infos about these bombs: BT 1850, KC 1000 ,KC 1800 , AB 1800 Abwurfbehälter and SB 1800. Which was the biggest planned german bomb ? I only know the SC-5000.
 
Thanks a lot for help.
« Last Edit: October 21, 2009, 06:35:38 am by moin1900 »

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Re: German rockets pictures
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2009, 12:20:41 pm »
BTW I am also searching infos about these bombs: BT 1850, KC 1000 ,KC 1800 , AB 1800 Abwurfbehälter and SB 1800. Which was the biggest planned german bomb ? I only know the SC-5000.
 

If you read German, a good place to start might be "Deutsche Abwurfmunition bis 1945" ("German air-dropped ordnance until 1945") by Wolfgang Fleischer, available from Amazon (http://www.amazon.de/Deutsche-Abwurfmunition-1945-Wolfgang-Fleischer/dp/3613022869/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256842810&sr=1-1). My own copy is still in a moving crate, though, so I can't check if there's info on any of "your" bombs.

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Re: German rockets pictures
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2009, 07:15:34 pm »
this book is translated in English for a few years now and published by Schiffer

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Re: German rockets pictures
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2009, 08:13:50 am »
Hi everybody
Thanks for the replies. Justo Lauge panzer1946
Sorry for my very late reply.
http://books.google.com/books
German air-dropped weapons to 1945
Deutsche Abwurfmunition bis 1945: Sprengbomben, Brandbomben etc.
by Wolfgang Fleischer
The KC 1000, KC 1800 and SC-500RS were mentioned.
The AB-1800 and SB-1800 were not mentioned ?
Here BT-1850 data
http://www.luftarchiv.de/index.htm?/bordgerate/abwurf.htm
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Re: German rockets pictures
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2013, 06:30:14 pm »
Oh my, it’s the Amerika-Rakete in the left corner of image no. 6!

To me it looks like what’s usually referred to as Aggregat 9, i.e. the upper stage of the proposed suborbital ICBM intended to target New York. Note the prominent curved, bladelike fins running along the whole length of the rocket, much unlike any other design today. Of course it could be just a concept for a Wasserfall-sized AA-missile, or an idea for an A4/V2 variant. Yet this photograph clearly proves the image of the A9 prevailing today is based on a real wind tunnel model, and not just made up. The boxart example I‘ve inserted is from a Special Hobby kit. While I cannot spot the A10 (the lower booster stage) among the shapes, this picture is the first palpable historic trace of that design I’ve come across so far.

And I’ve really been looking for it! The other day I had an argument with a friend, after we walked to an old V2 launch pad in Westphalia. Today just an overgrown slab of concrete, partly destroyed when a rocket exploded on the site itself. In the vicinity a tree still shows the carvings of a guard stationed where the rockets were fueled on their Meilerwagen trailers. So I argued I could believe the Amerika-Rakete was a real conceptual design, something that actually existed on paper and in the scientists’ minds - be it manned or not.  After all, later von Braun did build two-stage rockets once he had the means. My friend challenged me to provide a document, a picture, some sort of proof this is not just a modern myth. A popular scale model means nothing, and who says illustrators don’t just copy from one another? For example the text in my other picture claims to show a wind tunnel model, but it’s clearly just a drawing anyone could have made.

Well, I’m one step further now, thank you very much indeed!
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