Register here

Author Topic: North American Rockwell VTOL / VSTOL projects  (Read 17059 times)

Offline hesham

  • Senior Member
  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • **
  • Posts: 22832
Re: North American Rockwell VTOL / VSTOL projects
« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2014, 02:15:29 pm »
In my humble opinion Hesham , # 15 and # 17 are -not- the same aircraft.
( the wingplanform , air intakes and the undercariage are different)
The last illustration you show is indeed a Ryan Vertifan idea , one of the many...


My dear Lark,


the reply # 15 and # 17 differs only in the first was a Model and the second was asrtist
drawing,but in common,very close designs.


And for the Vertifan,may be GE co-operated with Ryan in development it.

Offline lark

  • Senior Member
  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • **
  • Posts: 1774
Re: North American Rockwell VTOL / VSTOL projects
« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2014, 05:31:37 am »
I'm not convinced.
Besides , in the captions with the artist impressions in the mag.article  there are
no manufacturers names nor designations exept General Electric.
Otherwise the photo's give more info...

Offline hesham

  • Senior Member
  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • **
  • Posts: 22832
Re: North American Rockwell VTOL / VSTOL projects
« Reply #32 on: September 09, 2014, 07:01:53 am »
I'm not convinced.
Besides , in the captions with the artist impressions in the mag.article  there are
no manufacturers names nor designations exept General Electric.
Otherwise the photo's give more info...


Ok my dear Lark.

Offline Skyblazer

  • Global Moderator
  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • ****
  • Posts: 13244
Re: North American Rockwell VTOL / VSTOL projects
« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2014, 05:04:29 pm »
The NR-365, NR-382 (conveniently reusing the "*82" Lockheed number for the Hercules) and a third, undesignated project, all from TsAGI's Tekhnicheskaya Informatsiya journal No. 17-18, 1980:

Offline Thomas7

  • CLEARANCE: Restricted
  • Posts: 13
Re: North American Rockwell VTOL / VSTOL projects
« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2014, 11:37:03 am »
Great find Skyblazer. According NAA's project list the NA-365 was a carrier onboard delivery aircraft for the Navy. That would fit the layout, seems to be a jet engined OV-10 based design. But what's the difference between the NA-xxx and NR-xxx designations?

Offline circle-5

  • Concept Models Guy
  • Top Contributor
  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • ***
  • Posts: 1157
Re: North American Rockwell VTOL / VSTOL projects
« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2014, 11:52:08 am »

An NA-xxx number means it was a North American Aviation product.
An NR-xxx number means it was a North American Rockwell product.

Offline Skyblazer

  • Global Moderator
  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • ****
  • Posts: 13244
Re: North American Rockwell VTOL / VSTOL projects
« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2014, 12:07:28 pm »
Indeed, when Rockwell took over NAA, NR- designations were applied to former NA- ones for programs that were still ongoing.

Offline Thomas7

  • CLEARANCE: Restricted
  • Posts: 13
Re: North American Rockwell VTOL / VSTOL projects
« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2014, 12:22:59 pm »
Thanks for the clarification Circle and Skyblazer.

Offline hesham

  • Senior Member
  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • **
  • Posts: 22832
Re: North American Rockwell VTOL / VSTOL projects
« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2014, 01:55:38 pm »
Also from 17-18/1980 file,


here is a Rockwell twin-boom aircraft project,but I don't know if it was STOL or
VTOL concept or not ?.

Offline Skyblazer

  • Global Moderator
  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • ****
  • Posts: 13244
Re: North American Rockwell VTOL / VSTOL projects
« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2014, 02:05:38 pm »
here is a Rockwell twin-boom aircraft project,but I don't know if it was STOL or
VTOL concept or not

The acronym "СВВП"means VTOL in Russian.

Offline hesham

  • Senior Member
  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • **
  • Posts: 22832
Re: North American Rockwell VTOL / VSTOL projects
« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2014, 03:11:28 pm »
Thank you my dear Skyblazer.

Offline hesham

  • Senior Member
  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • **
  • Posts: 22832
Re: North American Rockwell VTOL / VSTOL projects
« Reply #41 on: January 28, 2015, 03:24:04 am »
From Flying Review 2/162,


here is a more info about NA VTOL Buckeye.

Offline hesham

  • Senior Member
  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • **
  • Posts: 22832
Re: North American Rockwell VTOL / VSTOL projects
« Reply #42 on: March 05, 2015, 05:09:00 am »

may be this aircraft was a side-by-side two seat surveillance VSTOL aircraft version
of VSTOL trainer,page 33;

http://books.google.com.eg/books?id=1ZUDOCzJUrcC&pg=PA16&dq=flying+magazine+jan+1961&hl=en&sa=X&ei=iS8MVOq_GIjDO4_dgdAJ&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAzg8#v=onepage&q=flying%20magazine%20jan%201961&f=false


Hi,


here is the same artist drawing to a VTOL side-by-side two seat aircraft project,I hope to
can ID it.


Самолеты вертикального взлета и посадки (1966)