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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2008, 06:29:18 am »
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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2008, 03:12:30 pm »
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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2008, 04:48:24 am »
i read in Wiki or worst saw it on History Channel

story about that some of SST projects of Boeing, MDD, Lockheed.
end up as  B-1 proposals

is this true or just a urban Legend ?
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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2008, 05:05:23 am »
The Boeing B-2707 was considered as an alternative to the B-1 project.

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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2008, 07:37:28 am »
The Boeing B-2707 was considered as an alternative to the B-1 project.
Wow
the Boeing 2707-200 Model ?
but they have to make heavy modification on 2707 to be a Bomber

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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #35 on: October 15, 2008, 09:40:49 am »
Is there someone who can show us a drawing of the
unbuilt fixed wing variant of the B-1 ?
Thanks in advance.

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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #37 on: October 15, 2008, 01:42:01 pm »
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but they have to make heavy modification on 2707 to be a Bomber

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2887.0/highlight,air%20progress.html

Look at reply number 2

also...

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1282.0/highlight,sst%20usaf.html

From Air Progress June 1967:
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J. S. Butz, Jr., aviation engineer and technical writer said the SST would make a better bomber than the AF's proposed AMSA. Only slight modifications would be needed. Wings and fuselage have to be beefed up. Fuselage could be slimmed down, improving range and speed without sacrificing payload. Unrefueled range is around 8000 mi, with inflight refueling it could easely haul a 75000 lb payload over an 8000 mi range. The SST flying high will be easy to "see" by enemy air defense,  but hitting it won't be as easy flying at Mach 2.7. Consensus among AF and industry experts is that the SST no doubt could be converted into a bomber. All in all, say some experts, it's far better - even if it costs more in dollars - to design a new bomber specifically for that role than to adapt a plane intended for another purpose


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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #38 on: October 15, 2008, 02:34:11 pm »
Thanks Pome.. I'm gettin' older ::)

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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #39 on: October 15, 2008, 02:36:24 pm »
And Overscan of course... (it's not my day)

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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #40 on: October 16, 2008, 03:51:18 am »
zillions thanks pometablava

so its the Boeing 2707-200
but that plane is far more complex and expensive as the Rockwell B-1 proposal
like the needs of C-5  Airtanker for refuel
and even if B-2707 can attack Soviet union with mach 2.7 in high altitude
there MiG-25 Mach 3.2 to intercept the SAC Bomber
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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #41 on: July 30, 2009, 02:16:53 pm »
B-1A prototype in 1981 with theoretical load outs for the upcoming B-1B program.

Which one of these is not like the other?

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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #42 on: July 30, 2009, 05:10:35 pm »
Phoenix???? ???

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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #43 on: July 30, 2009, 11:46:36 pm »
I remember reading in Aerofax's book on the B-1 that there was a Navy version that Rockwell had proposed that was supposed to be capable of carrying a bunch of AIM-54's.
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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #44 on: July 31, 2009, 05:15:28 am »

       Sometime in the early '80s I saw in AW & ST there was a B-1C proposed for ADC, a long range interceptor, that would use the F-14's radar & have Phoenixes in the weapons bay(s).


Phoenix???? ???