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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2007, 10:35:35 am »
Seems the AW&ST artist impression of the LAMP (1964)

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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2007, 11:45:18 am »
Skybolt,

What kind if project is the LAMP?

Thanks in advance

Antonio

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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2007, 11:48:56 am »
Low Altitude Manned Penetrator
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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2007, 05:22:34 am »
Low Altitude Manned Penetrator (LAMP)

I am intrigued as I thought I knew all the 60s stuff.  Presumably this was a project that filled the time between the cancellation of the B70/RS70 and the AMSA.  Any pics/models/stuff?

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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2007, 09:58:22 am »
There were half a dozen bomber (and similar) projects between the RS-70 (not XB-70) definitive cancellation and the AMSA.

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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2008, 01:08:49 pm »
The B-1A was capable of similar performance as the XB-70 in terms of range and high-altitude speed right? 

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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2008, 05:14:46 pm »
The B-1A was capable of similar performance as the XB-70 in terms of range and high-altitude speed right? 

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Not even close.  The XB-70 was a Mach 3 / 72,000 ft cruise aircraft where the B-1A's max speed (flown anyway) was Mach 2.22 and it supposedly had a 60,000 foot ceiling.
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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2008, 04:16:29 am »
And completely different mode of use: B-70 high-high-high, B-1A high-low-high, with a long low. The LAMP was similar, but the high phases would have been subsonic, and the low transonic. In the B-1A the incoming high would have been supersonic and the low transonic.

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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2008, 10:48:37 am »
The B-1A was capable of similar performance as the XB-70 in terms of range and high-altitude speed right? 

KJ Lesnick

Not even close.  The XB-70 was a Mach 3 / 72,000 ft cruise aircraft where the B-1A's max speed (flown anyway) was Mach 2.22 and it supposedly had a 60,000 foot ceiling.

I think thats pretty close... at least so far as most SAMs are concerned.

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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2008, 12:14:13 pm »
Stuff from 1971 NAR B-1 brochure
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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2008, 12:17:47 pm »
'Look, dude, I believe it will fly, swear by my new tie!'
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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2008, 04:03:21 pm »
Ah, '70's fashion. Glad I was too young to truly appreciate the horror of lime green polyesther leaisure suits....

Not to drag this too far off topic, but what the hell...

http://teamsugar.com/group/46813/blog/771943

http://www.plaidstallions.com/fashion.html

http://www.plaidstallions.com/lingerie/index.html

http://www.aperfectworld.org/page_one.html

http://retrocrush.buzznet.com/archive2004/catalog/

It was like Communists on acid were deciding what was fashionable. Shudder.
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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2008, 10:13:46 am »
Unidentified AMSA concepts from Bill Holder's B-1 BOMBER (AERO SERIES VOL.35/TAB BOOKS, 1988) - second, revised edition.
Well, I'm pretty sure that Scott has 'shazamm' stuff ready...seems that last one is depicted in his B-1 collection (North American D436-21?)
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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2008, 10:34:12 am »
I hope I'm not the only one who recognizes the configuration of the first one in the above post:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_XB-51
It's a crappy self-made pic of a Lockheed Unmanned Combat Armed Rotorcraft (UCAR), BTW
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Re: AMSA Program & B-1 Bomber projects
« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2008, 06:18:03 am »
I am intrigued by the podded designs. The line drawing does not match the
artist's impression. Does anyone know anything more about these designs?

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