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Offline hesham

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Various Arado projects
« on: October 29, 2007, 11:24:25 am »
Hi,

The Arado SO-Geret a piloted version of
E.377 flying bomb project.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_aircraft_of_Germany_by_manufacturer
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Re: Various Arado projects
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2007, 11:44:24 am »
SO Geret must be: SO Gerät -  selbst opfer -Self sacrifying device.

Deutsche Geheimwaffen 1939-1945.
Fritz Hann. Erich Hoffmann Verlag.Heidenheim.1963. u.a.

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Re: Various Arado projects
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2008, 03:24:38 am »
Hi guys,

I have this projects pounding my mind for several years, without perspective to have them revealed:

Arado Radial Engined Fighter - Refered by Rudiger Kosin in "The German Fighter since 1915", a response to the soviet Polikarpov I-16, around 1938/39.

1940 project for a carrier-borne torpedo bomber sporting a single DB601, refered by Jorg Armin-Kranzhoff in his book "Die Arado-Flugzeuge: Vom Doppeldecker zum Strahlflugzeug". Does anyone knows more on these?

I wonder if the book from Volker Koos mentions these projects.

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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2008, 03:39:23 am »
Hi, guys,

I guess this projects are really secret. No one has the Volker Koos book "Arado Flugzeugwerke"»?

Kosin says in his book of the radial engined fighter project: "We then proceeded to draw up a german version ( after inspectiong the "Rata", my note) - a fighter with the air-cooled fourteen-cylinder BMW radial engine ( BMW 139). The aircraft did look something like the the later Focke-Wulf Fw190".
He adds that Walter Blume, as well as the LC II office ( aircraft development ) of the RLM were not enthusiastic, especially regarding the speed given by Kosin ( and I believe Nes): 600-650 km/h.

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Re: Various Arado projects
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2008, 05:13:51 am »
I have the book "Arado, history of an aircraft company" (J. Kranzhoff, Schiffer pub., 1997). Do you know it or should I check something inside?

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Re: Various Arado projects
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2008, 03:25:43 am »
Hi Tophe,

many thanks for your reply.I would appreciate that, althoug I think it is just an earlier version of the one I have from the same author. Anyhow, congratulations on your great work on the "fântomes fourchus".

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Wurger

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Re: Various Arado projects
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2008, 11:06:03 am »
I checked the book but found nothing about your 2 ones. Sorry... :-[

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Re: Various Arado projects
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2008, 12:01:04 am »
Hi Tophe,

thanks anyway. I have another challenge for you guys:

what about the Arado E380? It was a Ar 196 on steroids ( BMW 801, heavier armament ). Does anyone have a drawing, or other technical specifications?

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Re: Various Arado projects
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2008, 08:29:51 pm »
In the book "Arado, history of an aircraft company": Arado E380 = Ar 196 follow on with folding wings. No drawing of this one.

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Re: Various Arado projects
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2008, 03:36:06 am »
Hi everyone,

on the Arado E 380, from "Secret German Aircraft Projects of 1945", Toros Publications, 1997, p.24:

" A low-wing floatplane with faired float attachments intended to replace the Ar196 and powered either by one As402, one BMW 323R-2, or one BMW 801A engine. There are two versions, one armed like the Ar196, the other with 2xMG151/20 (front)+1xMG131(rear)".

From "German Aircraft of the Second World War", Smith/Kay, Putnam, 1972, p.727:
"Floatplane development of Ar196 with folding wings, one 1600hp BMW 801A"

My german is still sketchy, but Kranzhoff`s latest book on Arado refered to a projected started in 1942, closely related to the aerodinamically improved ( with bigger twin floats and already with MG151 ) Ar196 C, intended as a carrier plane ( traegerversion ), with better protection and armament. An Argus As411 was to power this bird at 383km/h. Project of 1943.

Some of this data does not match entirelly, but it would be interesting to know more on the Ar196C and the Ar E380.


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Re: Various Arado projects
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2013, 01:05:54 pm »
Hi Hesham,
 
not exactly what I had in mind... ;)
 

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Re: Various Arado projects
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2013, 05:00:35 pm »
Topics merged.

Here is the Arado E 580, the company's proposal for the "Volksjäger" competition (from the MBI book on the He 162).

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The E 580 concept was quite similar to the winning proposal from Heinkel, however, it was a low-wing aircraft with significantly higher technological demands.
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Re: Various Arado projects
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2013, 04:59:17 am »
Hi,


here is from Waffen-Arsenal 56,the Arado Ar.240 fitted with jet engine.

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Re: Various Arado projects
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2013, 03:34:26 pm »
Hi,


here is the first prototype for Arado Ar.240,please note the location of the cockpit,it
was over the wing center-section.