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Hornet 2000
« on: June 05, 2006, 05:44:29 am »
Back in the day when they were coming up with the configuration for the next generation Hornet which ultimately lead to the Super Hornet there was a study done which had several different basic configurations in mind.  Some of these drawings made it into AvWeek.  One of the designs had the Hornet with a cranked-arrow wing much like the F-16XL.  Does anybody have any drawings of this version of the Hornet?
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Re: Hornet 2000
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2006, 06:33:34 am »
From Matej's website:
Hornet 2000 configuration IV
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Re: Hornet 2000
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2006, 07:26:48 am »
The different configurations studied for the Hornet 2000

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Re: Hornet 2000
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2006, 10:18:17 am »
Configuration IV was offered as an alternative to the Eurofighter.
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Re: Hornet 2000
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2006, 11:37:19 am »
Hmmm.  I'd have swore it didn't have a canard.   ???
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Re: Hornet 2000
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2006, 01:23:24 pm »
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Re: Hornet 2000
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2006, 05:51:49 pm »
Is this the drawing everyone has been looking for?

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Re: Hornet 2000
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2006, 05:52:39 am »
Simply another american attempt how to kill european aerospace industry. Original Hornet 2000 was offered to GB, Germany and France as alternative to EFA and Rafale, but without success. From mid 1987 the goal was to create the more capable version of Hornet to fill the gap between up-to-date fighters and GD/MDD A-12 Avenger II. Many configurations were studied, the main are shown on picture posted by fightingirish.

PS: I wanted to find some drawings of advanced Hornet configurations, but without success. Instead of this I found Eurocopter Tiger studies that I searched two weeks ago (http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=207.0) Life is funny  :)

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Re: Hornet 2000
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Re: Hornet 2000
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Re: Hornet 2000
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2008, 10:53:28 am »
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Re: Hornet 2000
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Re: Hornet 2000 / early Hornet E/F
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2015, 11:39:47 am »
Hi folks,
I can't find a suitable topic to post these three pictures about an early model of the MDD Hornet E/F, which led from Hornet 2000 studies the to the final design for the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet program.
This model includes already the fuselage plugs, larger wing area, leading edge root extensions and control surfaces. It also has two extra wing hard points for payload. Avionics and the cockpit are also modified. Please notice, that this model don't have yet the rectangular engine air intakes of the Super Hornet. At that time, P&W and Allison were planning for an second engine option based on the Allison GMA 800. Also a new gun was planned.
Probably there is more pictures and information of the model Hornet E/F published in other magazines of this time period like Aviation Week, Flight International etc.


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Re: Hornet 2000 / early Hornet E/F
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2015, 12:43:39 pm »
Hi folks,
I can't find a suitable topic to post these three pictures about an early model of the MDD Hornet E/F, which led from Hornet 2000 studies the to the final design for the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet program.
This model includes already the fuselage plugs, larger wing area, leading edge root extensions and control surfaces. It also has two extra wing hard points for payload. Avionics and the cockpit are also modified. Please notice, that this model don't have yet the rectangular engine air intakes of the Super Hornet. At that time, P&W and Allison were planning for an second engine option based on the Allison GMA 800. Also a new gun was planned.
Probably there is more pictures and information of the model Hornet E/F published in other magazines of this time period like Aviation Week, Flight International etc.
Source: Luftwaffen-Forum, 02-1991, pages 64+65

I thought the second engine option P&W was offering was the PW7000 turbofan which had been their proposal for the Navy's A-X program?  Allison teamed with P&W to build the PW7000 but I've never read that it was based off this GMA 800.

What was the new gun? The M61A2 (versus A1) or a different system?
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Re: Hornet 2000
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2015, 01:21:28 pm »
Hi Colonial-Marine, the was no more information regarding a new gun system mentioned in the article.
IMHO, at that time MDD was maybe thinking of installing an 25-mm gun system based of European and Russian/USSR designs. :-\

Here an article about second engine option based on the Allison GMA 800 at Flight International.
Link: http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1991/1991%20-%201292.html (PDF-Viewer might open automatically.)


But to your point about the PW7000; in the magazine Aviation Week & Space Technology from 2/8/1993, Vol. 138 Issue 6, p17   is following mentioned:
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[...]Pratt & Whitney and Allison have teamed to develop an engine for the Navy/USAF AFX attack aircraft. Designated PW7000, the powerplant is expected to combine features and technologies from Pratt's earlier PW7000 configurations and Allison's GMA800 engine. [...]
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