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Re: Caproni Ca.133 unbuild versions
« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2008, 01:46:51 am »
Justo,

Drawings are from Spanish magazine "Flaps". They published a series on Italian WW2 aircraft.


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Re: Caproni Ca.133 unbuild versions
« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2008, 06:02:47 am »
Thank you Skybolt for comprehensive answer.
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Re: Caproni Ca.133 unbuild versions
« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2008, 06:03:50 am »
Forgive my ignorance but what is the English meaning of the Italian word 'Trigona'? Babelfish and 3 online dictionaries don't know it?  ???

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Re: Caproni Ca.133 unbuild versions
« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2008, 09:58:40 am »
Trigona is the surname of the designer (he was a Colonel of Regia Aeronautica Engineer Role)

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Re: Caproni Ca.133 unbuild versions
« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2016, 09:17:05 pm »
Hi!  Caproni Vizzola MCT's Reggiane L105 engine.
Can I see propeller lateral drive shaft at the bottom drawing?

MCT three side view drawing.
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3291.0;attach=26787;image
« Last Edit: July 16, 2016, 09:50:24 pm by blackkite »

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Re: Caproni Ca.133 unbuild versions
« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2016, 09:35:26 pm »
Hi!
Alfa 1101 engine.
"The AR-101-RC-45/II with two compressors, (also a RC 37/87 with a compressor) but its main feature is that it was a great four star of seven cylinders engine, total 28 cylinders. Designed by Wifredo Ricart in 1942. Engine referenced also as AR-1101.

It cubicaba 50'25 litres and gave 2300 Horsepower (that of a compressor)"

https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/threads/really-big-powerful-liquid-cooled-engines-the-best-approach.37001/

http://aerospaceengines.blogspot.jp/2012/06/wifredo-ricart-2-etapa-italiana.html
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Re: Caproni Ca.133 unbuild versions
« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2016, 05:24:31 am »
My dear Blackkite,

what was this caproni-Vizzola MCT,a fighter or something else ?,and what its relationship
with Ca.133 ?.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2016, 05:37:38 am by hesham »

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Re: Caproni Ca.133 unbuild versions
« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2016, 05:38:28 am »
Hi my dear heshan-san!
According to my auto Italian-English trasnlator,
MCT(Monoposto Caccia Trigona) is a Single-Seat Fighter Trigona.
So I think MCT was a some kind of sigle seat fighter.
I'm not sure the meaning of Trigona. What is this? ??? Triangle?
« Last Edit: July 17, 2016, 05:44:50 am by blackkite »

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Re: Caproni Ca.133 unbuild versions
« Reply #38 on: July 17, 2016, 06:23:56 am »
Thank you my dear Blackkite,


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Re: Caproni Ca.133 unbuild versions
« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2016, 07:41:36 am »
Hi my dear heshan-san!
According to my auto Italian-English trasnlator,
MCT(Monoposto Caccia Trigona) is a Single-Seat Fighter Trigona.
So I think MCT was a some kind of sigle seat fighter.
I'm not sure the meaning of Trigona. What is this? ??? Triangle?

Trigona is the surname of the designer (he was a Colonel of Regia Aeronautica Engineer Role)
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Re: Caproni Ca.133 unbuild versions
« Reply #40 on: July 17, 2016, 01:32:02 pm »
Justo Miranda had already posted those Caproni Vizzola MCT drawings in Reply #15.

Perhaps the MCT material should be moved to Italian projects of WWII? Alternatively, a separate thread for Trigona projects?

BTW: Can anyone confirm whether it was Ing Ercole Trigona or Col Emmanuele Trigona who designed the MCT and Sauro 1/Tricap?

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Re: Caproni Ca.133 unbuild versions
« Reply #41 on: July 17, 2016, 03:07:48 pm »
Hi my dear heshan-san!
According to my auto Italian-English trasnlator,
MCT(Monoposto Caccia Trigona) is a Single-Seat Fighter Trigona.
So I think MCT was a some kind of sigle seat fighter.
I'm not sure the meaning of Trigona. What is this? ??? Triangle?

Trigona is the surname of the designer (he was a Colonel of Regia Aeronautica Engineer Role)
Thanks!! :D

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Re: Re: REGIANNE L-105 mid-engined fighter project
« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2019, 08:06:43 am »
Hasan, your link is incomplete, it should be
https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/197858-progetto-tech-tree-aerei-italiani/&page=170&tab=comments#comment-6292533
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Il Caproni Vizzola MCT ( Monoposto Caccia Trigona) , basato sul "sauro" (un aereo da addestramento/turismo di vari anni prima ), aveva una certa somiglianza con il Do.335 e venne proposto in varie versioni . La base aveva il DB605 ed era armata con 1x20 mm e 4 da 12,7 ...velocita' di 706 km/h e 6000m in 5 minuti . Pesava poco piu' di 3 tonnellate .
Altre versioni erano piu' grandi e con motori "teorici" ma piu' potenti come Reggiane L.105 , l'Alfa 101 e l'Alfa 101 Maggiorato che dovevano dare velocita' di 740, 760 e 800 km/h rispettivamente.  Queste versioni avevano pero' un armamento abbastanza assurdo di 6 mitragliatrici da 12.7 ....
sotto la versione con il 605
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The Caproni Vizzola MCT (Monoposto Caccia Trigona), based on the "sauro" (a training aircraft / tourism of several years before), had a certain resemblance to the Do.335 and was proposed in various versions. The base had the DB605 and was armed with 1x20 mm and 4 by 12.7 ... speeds of 706 km / h and 6000m in 5 minutes. It weighed just over 3 tons.
Other versions were bigger and with "theoretical" but more powerful engines like Reggiane L.105, Alfa 101 and Alfa 101 Maggiorato which had to give speeds of 740, 760 and 800 km / h respectively. These versions, however, had a rather absurd weaponry of 6 machine guns of 12.7 ....
Below,  the version with [DB]605
Shouldn't this be in a Caproni thread?

Indeed ! Split and merged
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