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Re: Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« Reply #45 on: June 26, 2017, 08:04:01 am »
Nice find Sienar.

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Re: Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2018, 09:06:40 am »
Do you know the he 177 A2 variant wich was a recce aircraft(abandoned) and the A4 wich was a A3 with pressurized cockpit?

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Re: Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« Reply #48 on: March 10, 2019, 05:06:41 am »
Great find my dear Sgeorges,

but was it a real ?.

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Re: Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« Reply #49 on: March 10, 2019, 11:47:40 am »
but was it a real ?.

it's looking minimum Fighter Me 328

There were proposal to equip Bomber with parasite fighter Me 328
except that is Mistelgespann means: Me 328 fly the He 177 full of explosive
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Re: Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« Reply #50 on: March 10, 2019, 04:22:49 pm »
but was it a real ?.

it's looking minimum Fighter Me 328

There were proposal to equip Bomber with parasite fighter Me 328
except that is Mistelgespann means: Me 328 fly the He 177 full of explosive

Or the first reason,to protect the mathership.

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Re: Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« Reply #51 on: March 11, 2019, 02:42:13 am »
but was it a real ?.

it's looking minimum Fighter Me 328

There were proposal to equip Bomber with parasite fighter Me 328
except that is Mistelgespann means: Me 328 fly the He 177 full of explosive

Or the first reason,to protect the mathership.

Both is correct. This particular drawing in #48 is from Fritz Hahn "Flugzeugbewaffnungen" (p.407). He mentions both: a parasite fighter for defence of the He-177 on itīs one way trip to the USA and as a explosive carrier.

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Re: Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« Reply #52 on: March 11, 2019, 03:21:24 am »
If we take this drawing literally, it wouldn't make much sense as a Mistel explosive carrier, I think.
Still to be fitted with gun turrets would be unlikely then, and AFAIK, German Mistels for air-to-ground
missions were generally fitted with shaped charge warheads.
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Re: Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« Reply #53 on: March 11, 2019, 05:18:03 am »
If we take this drawing literally, it wouldn't make much sense as a Mistel explosive carrier, I think.
Still to be fitted with gun turrets would be unlikely then, and AFAIK, German Mistels for air-to-ground
missions were generally fitted with shaped charge warheads.

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Re: Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« Reply #54 on: March 11, 2019, 08:26:16 am »
Probably just a proposed use of piggybacking on the 177 for testing. Maybe there were concerns about the 217 not having enough power for the extra drag of the 328 with engines?

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Re: Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« Reply #55 on: March 11, 2019, 10:27:53 am »
As the Me 328 was proposed as parasite fighter, the only suitable way to carry it probably would have
been piggy-back. The same for using it as independent attack aircraft, I think, the carrying bomber would
have kept his full armament in the case of a parasite fighter, his bomb load, too.
But as a Mistel, with the He 177 used as a missile, just stuffing the fuselage full of explosives probably
wouldn't get the best efficiency.
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