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Offline Marcelo

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Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« on: December 26, 2007, 04:36:10 pm »
Oh..well...it's me again asking about Mistel combinations..sorry for being a pain..:-)

In the book " Mistel - German Composite Aircraft and Operations 1942-1945", by R. Forsyth, published by Classic Publications, on page 194 ,
there is a comment about a mistel combination that involved a Fw 190 and a He 177 Greiff as lower component. Unfortunately, the book does not provide a drawing of this composite.

Could  anybody post  a 3-view  drawing about the arrangement between these planes? ( If it is available, of course...)

Thanks for help!!

Marcelo.

 

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Re: Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2007, 05:39:36 am »
 From german magazine "Jet & Prop"  #3 1993.
Though I seem that my posting was more appropriately in section beside Thorvic in Scale Modelling, Fan Art & Profiles.

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Re: Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2008, 01:20:21 pm »
Thanks, borovik!!

It will be VERY helpful for me...:-)

Regards,

Marcelo.

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Re: Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2009, 09:13:33 am »
Hi,

here is the Heinkel He.177 Greif profile and variants.

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Re: Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2009, 05:01:55 pm »
The Heinkel He.274 is very interesting. It had been completed by the Ateliers d'Aéronautique de Suresnes under the type name A.A.S. 1. It was used as launcher for some french prototypes at the end of the 40's.

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Re: Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2010, 11:40:39 am »
Hi all,

a 3view of the "Junkers Ju.177" with Daimler-Benz D.B.613. (A version of the Heinkel He.177 "Greif".)
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Re: Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2010, 06:28:49 am »
I don't quite understand - this is the fuelage, wings and tail assembly of the He177 with a Junkers cockpit?

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Re: Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2010, 11:32:31 am »
Can you give us your source Maveric ?

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Re: Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2010, 11:55:20 am »
Yes lark:

"Heinkel He.177, 277, 274" by Manfred Griehl and Joachim Dressel (Airlife Publishing Ltd.).

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Re: Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2010, 06:20:38 pm »
Gondola aside, the nose glazing looks a bit like that of the Ju-277B-6/R3.

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Re: Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2010, 09:20:07 pm »
Just a guess, but could it be some kind of alternative design to
the Ju 488, maybe to make the own design look better ?
To me it doesn't make much sense for Junkers, with an own design
on the drawing board and trying to introduce a kind of "modular
construction", to give much effort to a Heinkel design.
It takes a long time, before all mistakes are made ...

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Re: Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2010, 02:01:38 am »
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[...]According to Dipl-Ing  Günter, the best improvement in performance was promised by the installation of the heavier DB 613 coupled power plant med up of two DB 603 12-cylinder liquid-cooled engines. However, keeping the main existing main undercarriage units (but with bigger tyres) would require a thicker wing of deeper leading leading-edge section.  Apart from the additional construction effort necessary, the new and heavier wing would alter the aerodynamics of the He 177. As a consequence, the increased all-up weight of the aircraft would necessitate strengthening of the fuselage, tailplane and tailwheal. Yet another drawback would be the marked loss of speed and a 5% reduction in operational speed caused by the fitment of 4 engine exhaust flame dampers. [...]

He 177 /”Ju”-177
Crew:  5
Powerplant: 2*DB 613
Output(each):  3,800hp
Wing Span: 31.50m (103 ft 8in)
Weight (loaded): 34.700 kg (76.500 lb)
Max Speed*: 425 km/h  (264 mph)
Ceiling:  8.000m (26,247 ft)
Range: 4.600 km (2.858 miles)
Arment
Nose (lower): 1*FDL  131Z
Dorsal(fwd): 1* FDL  151Z
Dorsal(aft):  -
Ventral: 1* WL  131Z
Tail: 1*HL 131V
Source: Page 96-98 from the book "Heinkel He.177, 277, 274" by Manfred Griehl and Joachim Dressel (Airlife Publishing Ltd.)
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Re: Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2010, 07:21:24 pm »
Could this be a case similar to that of the Me263/Ju248? Junkers had excess design capacity, so a Heinkel project was reassigned and given a free type number in the Junkers series?

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Re: Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2013, 06:25:18 am »
Hi,


here is the Heinkel He-177 A-7 and He-274 drawings.

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Re: Heinkel He 177/277/274 Variants and Projects
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2013, 06:28:21 am »
Hi,


we can transfer this topic to Early Aircraft Projects section.