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German WW1 gas artillery shells
« on: January 13, 2019, 09:22:10 pm »
German WW1 gas artillery shells

Number 1 Lachrymatory
Number 2 Phosgene or Diphosgene
Number 3 Diphosgene and Sneeʒing oil ( ? )
Number 4 Lachrymatory (same as Number 1 ?)
Number 5 Mustard gas
Number 6 Sneeʒing oil (?)and H.E. (High-explosive ?)
Number 7 Diphosgene
Number 8 Phosgene or Diphosgene
Number 9 Smoke
Number 10 21c.m. T.M. Diphosgene and Sneeʒing oil ( ? )
Number 11 Phosgene
Number 12 H.E. (High-explosive ?)
Number 13 Shrapnel
Number 14 Incendiary

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Re: German WW1 gas artillery shells
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2019, 09:22:53 pm »
Any information about Sneeʒing oil ?

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Re: German WW1 gas artillery shells
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2019, 10:53:57 pm »
As that shell is marked with a blue cross, it probably contained a CLARK-agent (Chlor-Arsen-Kampfstoff)
chlorine-arsenide combat agent), principally just an irritant, but intended to force soldiers to lower their
gas mask and become vulnerable to other agents then.
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Re: German WW1 gas artillery shells
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2019, 11:14:34 pm »
As that shell is marked with a blue cross, it probably contained a CLARK-agent (Chlor-Arsen-Kampfstoff)
chlorine-arsenide combat agent), principally just an irritant, but intended to force soldiers to lower their
gas mask and become vulnerable to other agents then.

And Sneeʒing oil ?

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Re: German WW1 gas artillery shells
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2019, 02:18:25 am »
And Sneeʒing oil ?

if that a "z" it's spell Sneezing oil, today called Sneezing gas aka Diphenylchloroarsine
it cause violent sneezing, follow by vomiting
It was used because the WW1 gas mask filters not stop that stuff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diphenylchlorarsine
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Re: German WW1 gas artillery shells
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2019, 03:13:17 am »
"mask breaker" ist/was the keyword:

It is noted, that"..This gas did not actually penetrate masks any better than other gases.", but I assume,
that even small amounts of it could cause the effects, that seduced soldiers to drop the mask.
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Re: German WW1 gas artillery shells
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2019, 03:30:10 am »
Thank you guys  ;D

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Re: German WW1 gas artillery shells
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2019, 03:52:05 am »
Any information on the calibres?

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Re: German WW1 gas artillery shells
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2019, 05:39:51 am »
Please find attached an U.S. Army report from the early '90s that I downloaded from DTIC ages ago. It doesn't show all the chemical shells/munitions that were in use by the Germans during WWI, but it does give overviews of the following:

7.5-centimeter, Light Trench Mortar Chemical Shell, D Mine
7.6-centimeter Trench Artillery Chemical Shell
7.7-centimeter Artillery Chemical Shell (7.7-centimeter Gun)

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3.1 INTRODUCTION
German chemical weapons consisted of a full array of mortars, rockets, artillery shells,
and aerial bombs developed during World Wars I and II. The Germans developed an
elaborate system of marking these munitions to readily identify their content and
explosive charge. See Acronyms/Abbreviations for a list of chemical agents and
related terms.

3.2 GERMAN TOXIC CHEMICAL CODES AND MARKING SYSTEM

3.2.1 World War 1. In World War 1, the Germans classified their agents on the
degree of effect caused by the agent rather than nature of the effect. German agents
were grouped into four categories. Each group was identified by a colored cross,
similar to the Geneva Cross: a yellow cross signified vesicants and persistent fills, a
green cross denoted lung irritants and nonpersistent fills, a blue cross signified
irritants, and a white cross denoted a lacrimator. There was no uniform base color for
gas shells. The earlier shells were gray. The later shells were painted blue with a
yellow ogive. Table 3-1 lists World War I agents as they correspond to the cross
marldngs. Note: Spelling is as shown in source documents.

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In addition to the colored cross, numbers were sometimes added to distinguish fills
with additives or combinations of fillers, Sources list several other markings used by
the Germans during World War 1. Table 3-2 lists the color, number, and multiple cross
combinations.

EDIT: Drats, thought the file was within the download limit. The document number (assuming DTIC ever gets put back up and it hasn't fallen victim to one of the ongoing content purges) is 25044105. The name of the report is:
U.S. Army
Chemical Materiel Destruction Agency

Old Chemical Weapons:
Munitions Specification
Report
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