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Offline Dronte

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Civilian versions of bomber aircraft
« on: April 01, 2006, 09:38:41 am »
Why to spend money in a development from zero if military designs can adapt?
 

Proposals for a SST based on the North American XB-70 Valkyrie (I cannot avoid to imagine to the boys of Green Peace in a MIG-31 with the colors of the rainbow trying him to give hunt to one of these apparatuses)  ;D
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Re: Civilian versions of bomber aircraft
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2007, 10:26:43 am »
Hi,

I found in Flightglobal site an artist picture for a civil version of
Boeing B-47 bomber and also a civil version of Northrop B-49.
The lockheed also had a jet airliner of 1949.

http://www.flightglobal.com/PDFArchive/View/1950/1950%20-%200378.html
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Re: Civilian versions of bomber aircraft
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2007, 02:33:04 am »
Development of Vickers Valiant into VC-7 / V1000

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Re: Civilian versions of bomber aircraft
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2007, 04:16:07 am »
Nice shots hesham.

I knew about the project to convert XB 35 into civil airliner and, of course, at least Boeing Model 377 Stratocruiser was directly derived from B 29/B 50.
Also Russians did a lot of developments of their bomber into civil airliners, starting by Tupolev Tu 16 and Tu 20, in mid '50s.

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Re: Civilian versions of bomber aircraft
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2007, 11:52:23 am »
In the current issue of Air International a proposed conversion
of the TupolevTu-22M3 Backfire into a bizz jet for 12 to 18
passengers, designated Tu 344 is mentioned.
It takes a long time, before all mistakes are made ...

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Re: Civilian versions of bomber aircraft
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2007, 01:13:07 pm »
There is a beautiful colour pic from A Tu-344 desktop model on page 127 Red Star Volume 24 "Tupolev Tu-144" which is a highly recomended book for unbuilt projects enthusiasts.

Another B&W photo on page 102 with a brief description on the project.

Both pics are also available following this link of our great forum:

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1411.0.html
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Re: Civilian versions of bomber aircraft
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2007, 11:53:47 pm »
Ah, thank you, had used the search function, but found no direct hit amongst the lots
for " tu 344", sorry  ...

Indeed, was it really intended as a civil transport ? Or was it just a kind of a fast military
communications aircraft ? Ok, for all those russian nabobs, money may not matter and
so, maintenance and fuel costs either, but I can't see a real market for such an aircraft.
It takes a long time, before all mistakes are made ...

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Re: Civilian versions of bomber aircraft
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2008, 10:10:13 am »
Hi,

a three civil version derivative projects fron Boeing B-47.
http://www.flightglobal.com/PDFArchive/View/1950/1950%20-%200860.html

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Re: Civilian versions of bomber aircraft
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2008, 10:46:58 am »
Jens,

the Tu-344 was a bizjet not a military aircraft project. However, as a straightforward adaptation of a combat aircraft its shortcomings for the bizjet role were so evident that it never progressed from the desktop model stage.

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Re: Civilian versions of bomber aircraft
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2008, 11:24:11 am »
From aero 1954:
A civil derivative of the Myasyshev Bounder for 75 passengers:
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Re: Civilian versions of bomber aircraft
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2008, 11:27:23 am »
Handley Page Mach 3 bomber airliner.

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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2008, 11:43:24 am »
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Re: Civilian versions of bomber aircraft
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2008, 01:25:06 pm »
The Baade 152 was developed out of the Alexejew 150 / Junkers EF 150.
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Re: Civilian versions of bomber aircraft
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2008, 10:59:38 am »
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