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Re: Luftwaffe: Secret Project Profiles/Dan Sharp & Daniel Uhr
« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2019, 09:30:13 am »
I got mine some days ago. Shipment to Germany took about 8 weeks! :( So I hope that is not a foretaste of Brexit. Anyway, this bookazine is fantastic and a excellent supplement to the other Luftwaffe Secret Projects volumes. Please keep the excellent work. :)
If I may have a wish for future volumes: I would love to learn more about Hütter projects (e.g. Ostmark). And I know, Dan, you said, that you don´t do a Hü-211 for certain reasons, but please... I also would like to read about the Junkers projects; even the lesser knwon Ju-290 B, C and E. I never saw an official drawing of them.
Cheers and hugs, Athpilot

I have a few previously unknown Junkers designs for the next one, and a few known Junkers designs that I can shed some more light on. In particular, I have the EFo 11-02, EFo 11-03, EFo 11-04, EFo 11-05, EFo 11-22, EFo 12, EFo 13 and EFo 14/1.
Based on the document in which these appear, it rather seems as though projects previously given as 'EF 008', 'EF 011', 'EF 015' etc. (particularly in Nowarra) are actually EFo designs - because that's clearly how they appear in the Junkers document. On this basis, I'm not entirely sure that the EF and EFo series were actually different. It seems more likely that the EF series simply followed the numerical sequence already laid out by the EFos.
I have also discovered the four Junkers designs that competed against the Dornier P 231 (Do 335), Arado E 530, Me 109 Zw and unnamed Heinkel designs in the Schnellbomber competition. Two of these are already known but don't appear previously to have been linked to that competition (which is odd, because it's plain that this is what they were designed for) - the EF 109, EF 110, EF 111 and EF 112.

Hi! That is fantastic. Thanks for the informations. Nearly half of the mentioned designs are unknown to me. Can you include it in a future publication?
Warm regards!

I was certainly planning to include the Junkers Schnellbomber designs. I had actually forgotten about the EFo designs until I saw your post about Junkers projects, now I plan to include those too.

Great! I look forward to the next volume... B)

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Re: Luftwaffe: Secret Project Profiles/Dan Sharp & Daniel Uhr
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2019, 09:41:44 pm »
Any chance of a poster with all of these to a constant scale?  That would look superb.

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Re: Luftwaffe: Secret Project Profiles/Dan Sharp & Daniel Uhr
« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2019, 11:47:55 am »
Any chance of a poster with all of these to a constant scale?  That would look superb.

Like the Flugzeug Classic one? No plans at present but I like the idea. It'd need to be a fairly large poster or the profiles would need to be used fairly small.

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Re: Luftwaffe: Secret Project Profiles/Dan Sharp & Daniel Uhr
« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2019, 03:05:28 pm »
Have you ever uncovered anything on the Ef 123?

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Re: Luftwaffe: Secret Project Profiles/Dan Sharp & Daniel Uhr
« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2019, 04:29:02 pm »
Have you ever uncovered anything on the Ef 123?

Nothing new, no. It's extremely difficult to find anything from Junkers that isn't already known.

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Re: Luftwaffe: Secret Project Profiles/Dan Sharp & Daniel Uhr
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It's extremely difficult to find anything from Junkers that isn't already known

What about the Junkers Ju 85? Do you have sketches?

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Re: Luftwaffe: Secret Project Profiles/Dan Sharp & Daniel Uhr
« Reply #36 on: Today at 02:59:34 am »
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It's extremely difficult to find anything from Junkers that isn't already known

What about the Junkers Ju 85? Do you have sketches?

No, sorry, just the familiar wind tunnel model and mock-up photos. There are 26 different photos of the mock-up that I'm aware of. Here are a few, along with the wind tunnel model that you've no doubt seen elsewhere in cropped form.

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No, sorry, just the familiar wind tunnel model and mock-up photos. There are 26 different photos of the mock-up that I'm aware of. Here are a few, along with the wind tunnel model that you've no doubt seen elsewhere in cropped form.
Thanks, you are right, I only knew the wind tunnel model in cropped form! I didn`t know, though, about photos of the inside as the radio station. The "kampfkopf" cabin and the stepped one are known. Nowarra published a side view, but that was just a Ju88 with twin fins. The real Ju85 was something (much) bigger.
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https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,4795.msg199165.html#msg199165

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Re: Luftwaffe: Secret Project Profiles/Dan Sharp & Daniel Uhr
« Reply #38 on: Today at 12:57:45 pm »
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No, sorry, just the familiar wind tunnel model and mock-up photos. There are 26 different photos of the mock-up that I'm aware of. Here are a few, along with the wind tunnel model that you've no doubt seen elsewhere in cropped form.
Thanks, you are right, I only knew the wind tunnel model in cropped form! I didn`t know, though, about photos of the inside as the radio station. The "kampfkopf" cabin and the stepped one are known. Nowarra published a side view, but that was just a Ju88 with twin fins. The real Ju85 was something (much) bigger.
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https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,4795.msg199165.html#msg199165

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Here are a few more. Forward views of the glass nose, then what appear to be two more different noses, with glass at the front and a large canopy on top - a little closer to the arrangement shown in the wind tunnel model.
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Re: Luftwaffe: Secret Project Profiles/Dan Sharp & Daniel Uhr
« Reply #39 on: Today at 01:41:43 pm »
I didn`t know about these two different nose configurations. That makes at least four(4) nose versions! Can you please post more photos? I would dare to ask Jemiba to "update" his great profiles on this bird.

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Re: Luftwaffe: Secret Project Profiles/Dan Sharp & Daniel Uhr
« Reply #40 on: Today at 03:00:51 pm »
I didn`t know about these two different nose configurations. That makes at least four(4) nose versions! Can you please post more photos? I would dare to ask Jemiba to "update" his great profiles on this bird.

I think these are the only external views. The others are all internal shots and they're a little confusing because the interior configuration appears to have changed as the exterior was altered. It's hard to know which scenes apply to which configuration. I've run out of time for now but I'll post more when I get chance.