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Offline Michel Van

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Re: Manned Soyuz' booster fails enroute to ISS, crew safe
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2018, 04:04:51 am »
here the Launch video


Note something happen during  Booster separation and LES jettison
you see how cosmonauts are shake true during the event. 
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Re: Manned Soyuz' booster fails enroute to ISS, crew safe
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2018, 04:15:18 am »
Here better Video


Note at 2:20 mark
there something lighting up, follow by plume in exhaust then a cloud form, then booster and piece emerge out that cloud

That could indicate that one of Booster had engine malfunction seconds before jettison 


http://www.russianspaceweb.com/soyuz-ms-10.html
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Re: Manned Soyuz' booster fails enroute to ISS, crew safe
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2018, 04:15:46 am »
So the failure occurred after the launch escape motor was jettisoned and the Soyuz was still connected to the booster.  They would have had to detach from the booster and also dump the round orbital segment and the service segment with the solar arrays all while going through a ballistic arc.

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Re: Manned Soyuz' booster fails enroute to ISS, crew safe
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2018, 05:05:38 am »
Just seen the BBC News article on the malfunctioning rocket (I have posted the link below) it is good news that they are safe.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45822845


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Re: Manned Soyuz' booster fails enroute to ISS, crew safe
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2018, 05:58:03 am »
Yup.

Most important thing: the crew is alive and well.
this said

- damn (as in John Hammond DAMN !)

- it happened at a peculiar moment, only months before Boeing and SpaceX crew vehicles end the gap

- this won't help U.S - Russia relationship, on the ISS (the leak !) and on the ground

- third launch abort for the Soyuz, third time the crew was saved. This one was right between 18A in 1975 and T-10A in 1983.

- worse mishap in manned spaceflight since STS-107

- the decline of Russia space program quality control continues, and perhaps worsen.
- The issues that send so many Protons and other rockets cartwheeeling into the ground over the last 10 years have NOT been solved.

- and, that's official, ISS had no crewed launch vehicle for the first time in its history.  :o
- Shuttle is long gone, Soyuz is down, CTS-100 and Dragon 2: not yet.
(Of course the on-orbit crew is still up there, with a Soyuz in case of emergency, so let's not fall into that trap, plus the ISS doesn't need a crew to stay in orbit, of course)

This is not the end of the ISS by any mean, of course, but it is one heck of an annoying setback, and at the wrong moment with that.

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Re: Manned Soyuz' booster fails enroute to ISS, crew safe
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2018, 07:31:01 am »
From the NASA YouTube channel.

Crew safe after Soyuz launch abort.



Russian reports talking of the first stage, that’s the four strap on boosters, impacting the second stage.

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Re: Manned Soyuz' booster fails enroute to ISS, crew safe
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2018, 10:38:02 am »
Some U.K. media are now referring to Russia launching a criminal investigation.

https://news.sky.com/story/emergency-landing-for-astronauts-as-rocket-fails-11523326

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Re: Manned Soyuz' booster fails enroute to ISS, crew safe
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2018, 11:40:55 am »
Some U.K. media are now referring to Russia launching a criminal investigation.

https://news.sky.com/story/emergency-landing-for-astronauts-as-rocket-fails-11523326

I would not necessarily read anything into that.  I think it's pretty much automatic in Russian aerospace accident investigations for there to be a parallel criminal investigation.  They did the same for an airplane crash in Sochi last month.

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Re: Manned Soyuz' booster fails enroute to ISS, crew safe
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2018, 01:34:34 pm »
Information on what's supposed to happen, and what can go wrong . . .

http://kik-sssr.ru/IP_4_Turatam_old_Razdel_1.htm


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Re: Manned Soyuz' booster fails enroute to ISS, crew safe
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2018, 08:39:35 am »
By the sounds of this new SN article it sounds like the Russians expect to be up and running again soon.

Soyuz investigators hone in on booster separation, promise conclusions Oct. 20

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Krikalev suggested the investigation may be swift, promising results by Oct. 20. Though Russia has suspended Soyuz flights amid the investigation, launches have yet to be officially delayed or rescheduled — indicating Roscosmos is hopeful to quickly resolve the problem with minimal interruption to ISS operations and other Soyuz missions.

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Re: Manned Soyuz' booster fails enroute to ISS, crew safe
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2018, 11:52:44 am »
https://www.roscosmos.ru/25607/

On Sunday, October 14, parts of all the stages of Soyuz-FG, which suffered an accident during launch on Thursday, October 11, will be delivered to the Samara enterprise of the RCC Progress center (manufacturer of launch vehicles of the Soyuz family).

At the beginning of the next week, the flight testing commission will begin work at RCC Progress, which will study fragments of the stages of an emergency launch vehicle to form a further conclusion.

Roscosmos plans to speed up the preparation of a new launch vehicle in order to decide as soon as possible on the schedule for further launches.  The decision on the schedule will be made immediately after permission is given for the further operation of the launch vehicles of this family.

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Re: Manned Soyuz' booster fails enroute to ISS, crew safe
« Reply #12 on: Today at 12:24:31 pm »
Soyuz MS-10 Failure extended (stabilization, zoom 2x, slow motion 25% with frame interpolation)

AstronautiCAST
Published on Oct 14, 2018

Edit by Riccardo Rossi (ISAA) - Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License -

Original footage courtesy of Roscosmos