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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #75 on: October 01, 2017, 10:06:26 am »
I remember doing research on italian heavy fighters a while ago and found some monster with 8x 20mm guns. Which one was that?
Probably it was the Breda BZ.303 Leone II https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breda_BZ_303
No something that was built, there was a black and a white photo i remember showing 8 clear 20 mm's mounted, 4 in wings and 4 in the nose. I seriously cant find it now. :C
Maybe it was a mockup?
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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #76 on: July 25, 2018, 03:11:36 am »
Back again. There will be in a very short term some news abot initially the SM-91/92, both derivatives of the SM-88 (in reverse order).
BTW, the drawing of the CR-55 in some post ago is complete fantasy. No one has seen a drawing of it in the last 73 years, or at least bothered to publish it anywhere (the 1945 date is not random chosen).
And, BTW, if it was even remotely similar to the true one, it would have been a CR-55bis. The straigth version had a central  fuselage, a la' P-38.  Please beware of fakes or flights of fancy.
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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #77 on: July 28, 2018, 01:37:35 pm »
Dear,
here it is the Breda 600 heavy fighter single seater project, designed in november 1938 by Mario Pittoni and Vittorio Calderini.
According to the source (Gente dell'Aria - Giorgio Evangelisti), the project was studied around 2 Isotta Fraschini Asso and it was armed with 2 machine gun of 12,7 mm.
The calculated speed was of 600 km/h.
The project, however, remained only to the papaer.
Regards.

 Weren't most of the Asso-named engines upright, liquid-cooled types? I think that they are air-cooled, inverted, IF Delta V-12 engines.

The front view clearly shows that the engines are an inverted type, with what I take to be exhaust stubs on the inside of the V, like the Delta. The oval front intake is also typical of the Delta, and the oblong objects on the outside of the nacelles in the side view could be fairings for the cooling air exiting the cylinder baffles. Two would produce 1400-1500 hp, which seems about right for the time.


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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #78 on: August 02, 2018, 06:37:19 am »
Assos were all upright V or W liquid cooled. The Delta series (I to IV) were inverted v and air cooled. Indeed, the fact that an aircraft was Delta-powered is immediately betrayed by the V air intake under to propeller shaft.

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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #79 on: August 04, 2018, 06:03:12 am »
Dear,
here it is the Breda 600 heavy fighter single seater project, designed in november 1938 by Mario Pittoni and Vittorio Calderini.
According to the source (Gente dell'Aria - Giorgio Evangelisti), the project was studied around 2 Isotta Fraschini Asso and it was armed with 2 machine gun of 12,7 mm.
The calculated speed was of 600 km/h.
The project, however, remained only to the papaer.
Regards.

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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #80 on: August 05, 2018, 08:29:14 am »
Well done my dear Zeroc.

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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #81 on: August 15, 2018, 11:25:58 am »
Years ago i made several art work about the Santangelo heavy fighter called also "Sturmovino" for the better know Russian Sturmovik, because can do ground attack with the cannon under belly.
 
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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #82 on: August 15, 2018, 11:54:27 am »
Ing. Celestino Rosatelli very well Know for the previous biplane family fighters, also projected a heavy fighter/bomber the FIAT CR.44 planned around the 2,400 hp (1,790 kW) FIAT A.44 engine capable to power a contra-rotating propellers solution. The A.44 X-32 engine never was built, so nor the CR.44.
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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #83 on: August 16, 2018, 06:26:55 am »
Wow,many thanks my dear MC72.

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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #84 on: August 16, 2018, 08:29:10 am »
I really do hope the do an Italian or Axis secret projects at sometime.

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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #85 on: August 17, 2018, 08:07:49 am »
Years ago i made several art work about the Santangelo heavy fighter called also "Sturmovino" for the better know Russian Sturmovik, because can do ground attack with the cannon under belly.
 
italian bf 110?  ;D

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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #86 on: October 28, 2018, 04:39:24 am »
From Aerofan 1983-2

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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #87 on: March 05, 2019, 05:27:16 am »
From Ailes 7/1948,

the Caproni Ca.380.

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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #88 on: March 09, 2019, 05:04:27 am »
Dear,
here it is the Breda 600 heavy fighter single seater project, designed in november 1938 by Mario Pittoni and Vittorio Calderini.
According to the source (Gente dell'Aria - Giorgio Evangelisti), the project was studied around 2 Isotta Fraschini Asso and it was armed with 2 machine gun of 12,7 mm.
The calculated speed was of 600 km/h.
The project, however, remained only to the papaer.
Regards.

By the way,

it was not its correct designation (Breda-600),and I think it took any of the designation Ba 80s
or 90s series.

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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #89 on: March 17, 2019, 06:41:24 am »
From Ali Nuove 6/1960,

the Ca.380 Corsaro and its variants ?!.