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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2013, 11:02:56 am »
Yes my dear Apophenia,


but we would like to know the complete story of it.

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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2013, 03:47:47 pm »
Hi,


here is the expected drawing to Fiat CR.55 twin fuselage fighter project.

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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2013, 06:04:43 am »
Hi,


here is the expected drawing to Fiat CR.55 twin fuselage fighter project.


The source;
http://aviarmor.net/aww2/projects/ita/fiat_cr55.htm

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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2014, 05:39:49 am »
Hi,


on 20 January 1936,the Air Staff asked for a multi-engine fighter/combat aircraft capable
to operate at 470 km/h,after elimination many aircraft and projects,such as Bonomi BS.25,
Jona J.10,IMAM Ro.53,Chiodi CH-2 and Piana-Canova PC 1600,they selected the Breda Ba.88
and Fiat CR.25.


And we spoke before about Canova aircraft,PC140 & PC1500,here;


http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,5110.msg127170.html#msg127170
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,19745.msg191432.html#msg191432


has anybody a more info about Chiodi CH-2 and Piana-Canova PC 1600 projects ?.
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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2014, 07:51:31 am »
Hi,


on 20 January 1936,the Air Staff asked for a multi-engine fighter/combat aircraft capable
to operate at 470 km/h,after elimination many aircraft and projects,such as Bonomi BS.25,
Jona J.10,IMAM Ro.53,Chiodi CH-2 and Piana-Canova PC 1600,they selected the Breda Ba.88
and Fiat CR.25.


And we spoke before about Canova aircraft,PC140 & PC1500,here;


http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,5110.msg127170.html#msg127170
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,19745.msg191432.html#msg191432


has anybody a more info about Chiodi CH-2 and Piana-Canova PC 1600 projects ?.


Here is the article about those two projects,no one heard about them before ?.

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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #35 on: January 04, 2014, 11:49:12 am »
A pair found recently from the SIAI-Marchetti archives:

Savoia-Marchetti SM.91 heavy fighter prototype
Savoia-Marchetti SM.92 heavy fighter prototype in Luftwaffe markings.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2014, 11:50:50 am by GTX »

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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2015, 05:49:02 am »
Hi,


I think that I saw an info about Chiodi CH-2 in a magazine,but I don't remember its name
now ?.

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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #37 on: September 12, 2015, 06:14:01 am »

on 20 January 1936,the Air Staff asked for a multi-engine fighter/combat aircraft capable
to operate at 470 km/h,after elimination many aircraft and projects,such as Bonomi BS.25,
Jona J.10,IMAM Ro.53,Chiodi CH-2 and Piana-Canova PC 1600,they selected the Breda Ba.88
and Fiat CR.25.

And we spoke before about Canova aircraft,PC140 & PC1500,here;

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,5110.msg127170.html#msg127170
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,19745.msg191432.html#msg191432

has anybody a more info about Chiodi CH-2 and Piana-Canova PC 1600 projects ?.


From a Russian book,


here is a small info about IMAM Ro.53 fighter project,who can translate ?.

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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #38 on: September 12, 2015, 07:45:38 am »
 Translation from russian


The work on the aircraft was used for reserve previously rejected project Ro.53 that somewhat simplified the task of engineers. Unlike other similar Italian machines development was one-place cabin, without any possibility of placing the rear rifle point. The design was produced by the classical scheme - wooden wings and a metal fuselage. Propulsion of two engines "Fiat" A.74 38 has a good total capacity that was to allow the fighter to reach a speed of at least 550 km/h. A little bit disappoint only weapons that co-stood just two 12.7 mm machine guns, section in the forward fuselage. Conceptually, and even outwardly the car resembled the British single twin-engine fighter "Whirlwind" the company "Westland", but "British" had a much stronger-in-equipment  of four 20 mm cannon.


 
 
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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #39 on: September 12, 2015, 11:39:39 am »
WOW, will be nice to see drawings of this one... :'(
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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #40 on: September 12, 2015, 12:12:27 pm »
Dear MC72!


In phrase "...the car resembled..." word "car" (road vehicle) has been incorrectly translation of Russian "mashina" (machine) which could mean vehicle, mechanism etc.
So, aircraft could be named "machine" in this text to prevent frequently mentioning the word "aircraft"


Thanks for translation!


P.S. I wonder if Russian magazine could knew more about Italian fighter' project, that Italian sourcres

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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #41 on: September 12, 2015, 02:39:22 pm »
Many thanks MC72.

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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #42 on: September 27, 2015, 03:26:19 pm »
Hi,


here is a full info about Chiodi CH.2 heavy fighter in Italian book,has anyone have it ?.


http://www.logisma.it/collana%20Aviazione%20LoGisma.pdf

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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #43 on: March 05, 2016, 01:25:43 pm »

on 20 January 1936,the Air Staff asked for a multi-engine fighter/combat aircraft capable
to operate at 470 km/h,after elimination many aircraft and projects,such as Bonomi BS.25,
Jona J.10,IMAM Ro.53,Chiodi CH-2 and Piana-Canova PC 1600,they selected the Breda Ba.88
and Fiat CR.25.


And we spoke before about Canova aircraft,PC140 & PC1500,here;


http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,5110.msg127170.html#msg127170
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,19745.msg191432.html#msg191432


has anybody a more info about Chiodi CH-2 and Piana-Canova PC 1600 projects ?.

Can I ask if Nardi FN.500 Fighter-Bomber Project involved in this competition or not ?.

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Re: Italian Heavy Fighters
« Reply #44 on: June 27, 2016, 05:44:42 pm »
Is this a Ca.380,too?
Top drawing forget to have radiator. ???
http://www.oocities.org/asymmetrics/cors.htm
http://forum.worldofwarplanes.com/index.php?/topic/2165-caproni-ca380-corsaro/
Ca.380
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2984.0;attach=168735;image

"This version of the twin-boom "Corsaro" is described briefly in the June 1960 RAF Flying Review (Page 50): "At one stage in the design the possibility of abbreviating the port boom to result in an asymmetrical aircraft a la Blohn und Voss was considered."  (via Linzi Mumford)"
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