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Offline Tophe

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Re: Real or fake
« Reply #120 on: May 11, 2011, 02:17:59 am »
On my computer I found this picture I got on the Web but that Google seems to find no more: 1913 Voisin "Petit Blindé".
Does someone know if this was true or is this is a fake picture of nowadays from old sources?
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Re: Real or fake
« Reply #121 on: May 11, 2011, 03:19:08 am »
Bonjour

It's true : flown in 1913 ,and used by the french army untill august 1914 .
Engine was an inline 200 hp Clerget-Blin (fom Aviation Magazine)

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Re: Real or fake
« Reply #122 on: May 11, 2011, 07:08:03 am »
Bonjour Richard,
Thanks to you and me and someone, this rare model may now (or soon) be found with Google.

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Re: Real or fake
« Reply #123 on: May 13, 2011, 10:08:04 am »
Nice but all fake... Apparently TaleSpin was a Disney animated cartoon series. Here's what the TaleSpin website says... (red type is mine)

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Imagine another Earth — similar to ours, yet altogether different — set in a time period reflecting the golden age of air travel. Put in a handful of characters from one of Walt Disney's animated classics and give them new lives; add a generous helping of never-before-seen people, places, and things; blend humor and drama in equal parts; cram in as much fun and adventure as you can, adding a dash of danger and a healthy dose of heart-filled storytelling. You now have the formula for what is an unsung highlight of animated television — a series which many consider to be the finest the Disney Company ever released.

TaleSpin, a spin-off loosely based on Walt Disney's 1967 adaptation of The Jungle Book, stars Baloo Bear as an ace pilot from the harbor city of Cape Suzette, in a fantasy world whose citizens are clothed, talking animal-people. The fuzzy, fun-loving bear and his new best buddy, navigator Kit Cloudkicker, fly deliveries for an air cargo company called "Higher for Hire" run by Rebecca Cunningham, sharp businesswoman and caring mother of young daughter Molly. Their compatriots include the singing orangutan Louie, now the proud manager of a swinging island nightclub, and also Higher for Hire's trusty, rust-brained mechanic Wildcat.

Aboard the fabulous airplane the Sea Duck, these "friends for life" travel to distant places, finding high-flying action and adventure (or rather, it finds them) as they run afoul of adversaries such as Don Karnage, egomaniacal leader of the dreaded Air Pirates; Shere Khan, CEO of the largest corporation in the world, Khan Industries; and Colonel Spigot, tyrannical commander from the frozen, communist country of Thembria. Through thick and thin, the heroes learn valuable lessons on courage, honesty, and friendship, always winning as they team up to turn things around on troublemakers.

TaleSpin officially debuted on syndicated television on September 9, 1990, with the premiere of its introductory TV-movie "Plunder & Lightning." Fans since justifiably view the series as the pinnacle of the Disney Afternoon's program lineup, as well as one of the best shows (animated or otherwise) of its decade. In spite of critical praise (best embodied by the Emmy Award won by "Plunder & Lightning" and an Emmy nomination for all 65 episodes), TaleSpin seemed undeservedly downplayed by its parent company. Yet its quality has earned the appreciation of many who seek to preserve this special series for generations to come.


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The TaleSpin world is filled with aircraft of every kind. Air freight and shipping is the lifeblood of commerce and industry, and cargo planes of every kind sail the affluent skies, from the outdated but well-beloved Conwing L-16 to huge super-transports carrying several tons of cargo.

The safety of the skies is equally important. Air pirates lurk the shipping lanes aboard huge airships, pouncing on unwary merchant planes in their fast, deadly fighter craft. In response, coast guard forces and the military are equipped with the swiftest of modern fighters to curtail the pirate threat. Khan Industries leads the world in shipping and exports due primarily to its vast fleet of cargo transports, and employs the most advanced fighter craft to protect company interests.


Sources:
http://talespinsourcepage.i8.com/introduction.htm
http://talespinsourcepage.i8.com/aircraft.htm
http://talespinsourcepage.i8.com/equipment_3.htm



Conwing was a fictionalized version of Boeing, though the aircraft itself is based on the Fairchild C-82 transport and the Grumman HU-16 amphibian aircraft. :)

The serial was also partially inspired by the 1982 (live action) TV serial Tales of the Gold Monkey and by Sam's and Rebecca's relationship in Cheers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tale_Spin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tales_of_the_Gold_Monkey
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Re: Real or fake
« Reply #124 on: May 14, 2011, 08:28:46 am »
Yeah, that's the Sea Duck, alright. I grew up watching that show as a kid. Baloo and his friends are constantly getting that thing shot up by Don Karnage's air pirates. If we could get an air-to-air Exocet missile under the Sea Duck's wings, DK would be cooked. Shere Khan would get mighty interested in Baloo's newfound weapons technology, however... ;D

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Re: Real or fake
« Reply #125 on: May 17, 2011, 06:04:44 am »
A company going by the name Hydro Lance Corporation is advertising their "High-Speed Large-Aircraft Float-Pontoons" and Hydro-Lance (HARTH) technology, but all they seem to produce on their website is a string of not too convincing computer graphics.

Amidst their "Fast Patrol boats", their "Super Yachts" and their "Patrol Interceptors", there is a project for "HARTH Hi-Bred Flight-Pontoons Retrofit For Heavy Aircraft", a floating apparatus supposed to be fitted to a Hercules transport for take-off and landing from the sea's surface (albeit with the help of auxiliary jets on either side of the fuselage).

My question is: is this a realistic arrangement? Or are we in the presence of another aspiring inventor merely trying to pass of his dreams for reality? Most of all, is there such a thing as a "Hydro Lance Corporation"? Existence of a website in itself being anything but proof, since anyone can create a site and claim just about anything... My main reason for doubting is that there is absolutely NO photograph on the site, not even a scale model, let alone a prototype...

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Re: Real or fake
« Reply #126 on: May 19, 2011, 05:40:49 pm »
Found on a book cover. The novels plot has some eerie similarities to United 232 (The Sioux City Crash) in that tail damage locks the plane into a continuous turn and disaster is averted due to the pilots aerobatic experience.

The aircraft in the novel seems to be a thinly disguised Tristar. The cover on the other hand has what seems to be a cross between a Boeing & a Tupolev (Tu-104)

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Re: Real or fake
« Reply #127 on: May 26, 2011, 07:12:31 pm »
This is kind of awkward to explain.  There are many people on this board who will post designs of fictitious aircraft, a/c in fictitious markings, etc.  There are people who create fantasy corporations for their own amusement.  I think this falls into that category.  Of course we are all familiar with real corporations that never produced anything but pretty websites, also. 

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Re: Real or fake
« Reply #128 on: May 26, 2011, 09:38:42 pm »
My question is: is this a realistic arrangement?

Searching for "High Aspect Ratio Twin Hull" shows, that this concept still is regarded with a lot
of scepticism, because those very long and slender fuselages may mean a lot of material and weight
and still may be very prone to bending loads. With regards to the use of this technology for
seaplanes, it puzzles me, that those twin hulls are principally designed to stay under the surface to
achieve low drag and enable high speed. So I cannot imagine, that it's a very suitable technology for
seaplanes and the "Fat Albert" and the Boeing 727 are certainly meant  to take off, though, there are
other projects on the site for conversion of jet liners into high speed ships.
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Re: Real or fake
« Reply #129 on: May 31, 2011, 11:52:11 pm »
I found the attached image at The Transport Archive:

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G1539  An artists impression of a VTOL passenger aircraft that could operate from a suitable building in a city. These drawings date from the 1960's and we are a long way from seeing this type of transport in our cities.
Publisher    Bristol Siddeley
Contributor    Rolls-Royce Plc
Creator    corporatename, British Aircraft Corporation; ,
Date    , ; ,
Type    Drawings, Artists impression; ,
Format    dimension.W, 187mm; , ; , ; ,
Identifier    E139346
Source    Rolls Royce Heritage Trust
Language    EN
Relation    , ; , ; , ; ,
Coverage    Location.Creation Site, Filton; , ; , ; ,
Rights    Rights as agreed and detailed in signed agreement
File created 4:2:1, 17/5/2004

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It certainly isn't a VTOL airliner, but could this be an artist's impression of the BAC QSTOL?
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Re: Real or fake
« Reply #130 on: February 21, 2012, 02:48:50 pm »

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Re: Real or fake
« Reply #131 on: February 21, 2012, 09:59:47 pm »
If you click on older or more recent, you will see other fantasies, yes.

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Re: Real or fake
« Reply #132 on: February 26, 2012, 03:33:35 pm »
This is Jose Garcia's work. The guy is a genius!!

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Re: Real or fake
« Reply #133 on: April 24, 2012, 04:21:58 pm »
Hi,


I think this AirShip VTOL UAV,a completely fake,am I right ?.

http://www.airshiptg.org/
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Re: Real or fake
« Reply #134 on: April 24, 2012, 09:35:04 pm »
Don't think it's a fake, but the questions is, what's the probability of this
vehicle ever being realised ? The "AirShip Technologies Group" still seems not to
be a company in common sense, but a number of volunteers, who are working on
this project during their spare time (unpaid, of course !). You can join this group
by yourself and chose the field, you would like to work at :http://www.airshiptg.org/collaborationroles.htm
To me it seems, that still yet only a number of fancy drawings and computer renderings
were, done, maybe by the CEO himself, if he still is the leader of a one-man-team !  ;) 
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