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Re: Bell V-247 armed Tiltrotor drone for the Marines
« Reply #45 on: October 02, 2018, 02:38:16 am »
They should really think about an "air warfare" package for the Independence class LCS with their 100 foot wide flight deck.


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Re: Bell V-247 armed Tiltrotor drone for the Marines
« Reply #46 on: October 02, 2018, 03:01:12 am »
I fear that an unmodified WWII era CVE would be a more survivable platform.
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Re: Bell V-247 armed Tiltrotor drone for the Marines
« Reply #47 on: October 02, 2018, 04:49:37 am »
I fear that an unmodified WWII era CVE would be a more survivable platform.

A WWII battleship outfitted with Aegis would be more survivable still but we don't have any of those either.  ;)  A Zumwalt on the other hand also has a large flight deck. . .
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Re: Bell V-247 armed Tiltrotor drone for the Marines
« Reply #48 on: October 02, 2018, 05:27:51 am »
WWII carrier battles showed that hitting first mattered since all carriers were no match for bombs/torpedos.  For that matter, the Yamato showed that having 70,000 tons of steel can't save you either.  Like tanks and APG rockets, explosives get through.

I would be surprised if WWII escort carriers (built off modified cargo ship hulls) matched the level of water tight compartmenting of the LCS designs and they certainly weren't going to be speeding around at 40Kts during evasive maneuvers.

Anything that can kill an LCS can probably kill a frigate.  In the end though, what really counts is active defense.  These days, a tank without active defense is as much a target as a threat even with all the armor plating it carries.  Sensors and range superiority determines who hits first and a 1000lb bomb (dropped from a V-247) won't care if you have another inch of steel on your hull.

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Re: Bell V-247 armed Tiltrotor drone for the Marines
« Reply #49 on: October 02, 2018, 06:11:40 am »
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Re: Bell V-247 armed Tiltrotor drone for the Marines
« Reply #50 on: October 02, 2018, 11:37:45 am »
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Re: Bell V-247 armed Tiltrotor drone for the Marines
« Reply #51 on: October 02, 2018, 06:51:58 pm »
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Re: Bell V-247 armed Tiltrotor drone for the Marines
« Reply #52 on: October 07, 2018, 08:17:46 am »
The interesting discussion about the survivability of aircraft carriers, armoured or unarmoured was split from
this topic and can be now found and continued here: https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,30921.msg337615.html#new
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