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Tupolev Tu‑160: Soviet Strike Force Spearhead
« on: August 14, 2016, 02:26:00 am »
https://www.amazon.com/Tupolev-Tu-x2011-160-Spearhead/dp/0764352040/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1471166141&sr=8-1&keywords=Tu-160

Publication date: november 2016

Is this going to be just a revision of the original Red Star excellent monographic...

https://www.amazon.com/Tupolev-Tu-160-Blackjack-Russias-Answer/dp/1857801474/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1471166141&sr=8-5&keywords=Tu-160


 or are going to see drawings of previous unknown designs related to competitive designs, ancestors or unbuilt proposals?


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Re: Tupolev Tu‑160: Soviet Strike Force Spearhead
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2016, 04:20:49 am »
My dear Pometablava,

Also I hope there is something new in this book rather than older.

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Re: Tupolev Tu‑160: Soviet Strike Force Spearhead
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2016, 01:56:30 am »



Is this going to be just a revision of the original Red Star excellent monographic...

https://www.amazon.com/Tupolev-Tu-160-Blackjack-Russias-Answer/dp/1857801474/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1471166141&sr=8-5&keywords=Tu-160


 or are going to see drawings of previous unknown designs related to competitive designs, ancestors or unbuilt proposals?

If you have seen the  title on the Tu-144 released by Schiffer a couple of years back you will get an idea - in summary a lot of new content with regards to prototypes , almost double the size in Pp and Pcs and HB as compared to Red Stars from the now defunct Midland Counties - i would hazard - well worth a buy  if you are a bomber Buff
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Re: Tupolev Tu‑160: Soviet Strike Force Spearhead
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2016, 07:43:32 am »
Definitely one to watch out for.   B)

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Re: Tupolev Tu‑160: Soviet Strike Force Spearhead
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2016, 09:22:37 am »
A number of Gordon's books from the Red Star series have gotten the enlargement and update treatment, such as the volumes on the Tu-4 and the Ekranoplans, and so far I have found the new editions all sufficiently improved to make them worthwhile investments.

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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2016, 05:35:20 am »


Received my copy yesterday. After a short look through last night I am impressed.It appears to be the best of the series so far. A must have for anyone with interest in Russian aviation. Great job to to the author.
Cheers,.Jim

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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2016, 07:26:42 am »


Received my copy yesterday. After a short look through last night I am impressed.It appears to be the best of the series so far. A must have for anyone with interest in Russian aviation. Great job to to the author.
Cheers,.Jim

Any chance of a review for those of us who are still waiting to get a copy?

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Re: Tupolev Tu‑160: Soviet Strike Force Spearhead
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2016, 11:18:27 pm »
I recently got one.  Excellent work, about the only thing missing was the Tu-160 over Syria...which was obviously too recent to incorporate.  Plenty of details on the new modernization programmes and the new production plans.  If you compare this to the Red Star volume, you get a TON of additional information about the early Tupolev and Myasischev designs, as well as updated and expanded bits everywhere else.  It's about three times the length of the Red Star book.  Highly recommended if you have an interest!

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Re: Tupolev Tu‑160: Soviet Strike Force Spearhead
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2016, 07:30:26 am »
Does the book have any images of the unbuilt Tu-160 variants of the 1980s (Tu-160PP, Tu-161, Tu-160K, Tu-160V etc.)?

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Re: Tupolev Tu‑160: Soviet Strike Force Spearhead
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2018, 09:32:18 am »
from amazon.com customer reviews:

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"The story starts with a 40+ page pre-history of the development and the associated politics within the various design and politburos". JCAL

Not too bad since the book has 288 pages...


I would join Meteorit's question

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Does the book have any images of the unbuilt Tu-160 variants of the 1980s

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Re: Tupolev Tu‑160: Soviet Strike Force Spearhead
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2018, 08:12:27 pm »
There's a three-view of the Tu-160PP, and a cutaway side-view of the Tu-160K.

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Re: Tupolev Tu‑160: Soviet Strike Force Spearhead
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2018, 12:15:14 am »
There's a really authoritative Tu-160 book in Russian by Tupolev employees A. M. Zatuchny, V. Rigmant  and P. M. Sineokiy which is chock full of original Tupolev drawings and photos. Hopefully some of this information made it into Gordon's new book.
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Re: Tupolev Tu‑160: Soviet Strike Force Spearhead
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2018, 06:53:50 am »
I will receive my copy next March 21st. Then I'll post the comprehensive review taylored for SPF members

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Re: Tupolev Tu‑160: Soviet Strike Force Spearhead
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2018, 09:12:05 am »
The book arrived.

Compared to "A. M. Zatuchny, V. Rigmant  and P. M. Sineokiy, Ed Polygon", true reference, "Gordon & Kmossarov, Ed Schiffer" is a hard contender. In my opinion, there's no alternative for those who can't read Russian.

The Schiffer book is a big volume, beautiful edited with lots of big pictures, many of it in colour. Unbuilt project enthusiasts will be delighted.

Chapter 1: the great contest (pag 9 to 52) Tupolev bid Tu-160IS, Tu-160M (first use) and Tu-160M VG variant, Sukhoi T-4MS, Myasishchev M-20 (about to 20 versions described and illustrated), M-18
Chapter 2: the bomber takes shape (pag 53 to 86): the different preliminay designs (1,2, 3, 4, 5, 6A, 6B, 7, 8A, 8B, 9, and 10) are shown in gorgeus detail from different desktop model photos and three view drawing
Chapter 5: versions and projects (pag 151 to 164): Tu-160PP (3 view drawing), Tu-160 NK74 engines, Tu-160M (second use), Tu-160V, Tu-160K (internal profile drawing), Tu-160SK (drawing and desktop models), Tu-160 civil registration (desktop model), Tu-160M Mid-life update (third use), Tu-160M2

I also like Chapter 6: Tu-160 in detail, Chapter 7: Tu-160 in service and Chapter 8: Blackjack vs Bone

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Hopefully some of this information made it into Gordon's new book

Both books share a lot of common pictures. I can't tell about the text since I can't read Russian. But I see more projects and tables n the Polygon book because it tells the competition story from an earlier point in the timeline, including previous bomber designs to the official Tu-160 RFP, and ends with prospective follow on projects too. It's a pity to see considerable information amounts from Russian language literature lost in its English language adaptations.

There are also a great number of colour profiles showing aircraft markings and curious and artistical photos which benefit from the unique nature and dimensions of the aircraft.
The large format and paper quality of the volume contribute to a great extent.

I think I left nothing to say. I strongly recommend it.


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Re: Tupolev Tu‑160: Soviet Strike Force Spearhead
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2018, 12:24:46 pm »
There's a really authoritative Tu-160 book in Russian by Tupolev employees A. M. Zatuchny, V. Rigmant  and P. M. Sineokiy which is chock full of original Tupolev drawings and photos. Hopefully some of this information made it into Gordon's new book.

Pavel Sineokiy is a head of Polygon Press in fact
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