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Offline kaiserd

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Re: French Secret Projects 1: Post War Fighters OUT NOW!
« Reply #90 on: November 18, 2016, 03:14:00 pm »
But it is also the point : often with projects (not just the Mach 3 designs) all that survives is ONE illustration. I was very happy to have access to a full file of MD 751 model pictures so I ran all five of them. For most of the others I had nothing but the drawing published...in some case I had the drawing final dot. With hand written comments scribbled on the drawing when I was lucky and no box("cartouche" in French of drawing specification -including scale- when I was unlucky ! So "history" of the subject was pretty thin in those cases!

JCC

Thanks for a great book. Pity not a much stronger history of such secret projects; the stories and insights of the designers, airforce officials of the time etc. Hope lessons learned and more details will eventually be available for more recent secret projects.

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Re: French Secret Projects 1: Post War Fighters OUT NOW!
« Reply #91 on: November 19, 2016, 03:05:36 am »
(and the Mach 6 designs may go into vol 3 if there is ever a vol 3)
Yes, PLEASE!

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Re: French Secret Projects 1: Post War Fighters OUT NOW!
« Reply #92 on: November 19, 2016, 03:37:02 am »
 "the stories and insights of the designers, airforce officials of the time etc."

this is something you had in the Coleoptere book and which you will have (in French) on soon-to-come books on the SO Trident (early 2017), Nord 500 (2017), Breguet  Integral (mid 2017). Beside even in the short chapter on Mach 3 aircraft there were quotes of :
- Ingénieur Général Combes (deputy director of STAé at the times)
- Général Philippe Maurin (chief of staff Armée de l'Air)
- Marcel Dassault

The designers responsible for designing the specific projects mentionned in the book were not identified and it was therefore not possible to track them down, assuming they are still alive or wrote down their memories.

JCC

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Re: French Secret Projects 1: Post War Fighters OUT NOW!
« Reply #93 on: November 19, 2016, 04:09:41 am »
"the stories and insights of the designers, airforce officials of the time etc."

this is something you had in the Coleoptere book and which you will have (in French) on soon-to-come books on the SO Trident (early 2017), Nord 500 (2017), Breguet  Integral (mid 2017). Beside even in the short chapter on Mach 3 aircraft there were quotes of :
- Ingénieur Général Combes (deputy director of STAé at the times)
- Général Philippe Maurin (chief of staff Armée de l'Air)
- Marcel Dassault

The designers responsible for designing the specific projects mentionned in the book were not identified and it was therefore not possible to track them down, assuming they are still alive or wrote down their memories.

JCC

Good News JCC.

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Re: French Secret Projects 1: Post War Fighters OUT NOW!
« Reply #94 on: November 21, 2016, 02:36:35 pm »
Hoping to get a copy of this from santa  :P

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Re: French Secret Projects 1: Post War Fighters OUT NOW!
« Reply #95 on: September 14, 2017, 07:00:03 am »

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Re: French Secret Projects 1: Post War Fighters OUT NOW!
« Reply #96 on: September 14, 2017, 07:15:45 am »
Unfortunately this mystery remains a mystery although I am now considering a filiation with the SE Durandal because of the large delta fin. But nothing really conclusive came out. Actually on e-bay three models were offered : one "in flight" , one "on its legs" and one "on trailer". I obtained the "on trailer" one but was outbid on the other two. However the seller by mistake sent me the "on its legs" model which I was able to photograph before having to send it back. The Fana article has a photo of this "on its legs" model.

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Re: French Secret Projects 1: Post War Fighters OUT NOW!
« Reply #97 on: September 14, 2017, 03:08:40 pm »
Thank you JCC.

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Re: French Secret Projects 1: Post War Fighters OUT NOW!
« Reply #98 on: July 21, 2018, 05:26:09 am »
Finally i got my Copy of French Secret Projects 1

After two attempts were Belgium post "lost" the package, i used now a Amazon Locker in Germany

This Book is fantastic trip true the post war history of French aircraft proposal !
JC Carbonel you made excellent work to put all those Proposal in one Book
I enjoy the reading !
I love Strange Technology

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Re: French Secret Projects 1: Post War Fighters OUT NOW!
« Reply #99 on: October 02, 2018, 01:01:49 pm »
Hello,

Could anybody upload a picture of the table of contents of FSP I ? Also, does the book cover the projects leading to the Rafale as well ?

thanks

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Re: French Secret Projects 1: Post War Fighters OUT NOW!
« Reply #100 on: October 02, 2018, 05:12:36 pm »
yes, it has pre-Rafale stuff
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