Register here

Author Topic: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter  (Read 67152 times)

Offline PaulMM (Overscan)

  • Secret Projects Forum Founder
  • Administrator
  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • *****
  • Posts: 10785
  • Paul Martell-Mead
    • Secret Projects
Re: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2012, 10:56:35 pm »
Great artwork of a cool design. I'm sure Gerald's collection holds some great photos.
"They can't see our arses for dust."
 
- Sir Sydney Camm

Offline Pioneer

  • Senior Member
  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • **
  • Posts: 1540
  • Seek out and close with the enemy
Re: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter
« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2012, 05:03:57 am »
As per normal you have once again outdone yourself Mark!!!!!

You have made my day  ;D


Thanks

Regards
Pioneer
And remember…remember the glory is not the exhortation of war, but the exhortation of man.
Mans nobility, made transcendent in the fiery crucible of war.
Faithfulness and fortitude.
Gentleness and compassion.
I am honored to be your brother.”

— Lt Col Ralph Honner DSO M

Offline Mark Nankivil

  • Archive Raider
  • Top Contributor
  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • ***
  • Posts: 1413
Re: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter
« Reply #32 on: January 25, 2012, 06:27:01 am »
Thanks all - just very lucky to do this and find gold at times.

Here's a few more from Gerald's collection...

Enjoy the Day! Mark

Offline Mark Nankivil

  • Archive Raider
  • Top Contributor
  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • ***
  • Posts: 1413
Re: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter
« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2012, 07:14:01 am »
...and a few more...
« Last Edit: January 25, 2012, 09:05:45 am by Mark Nankivil »

Offline Mark Nankivil

  • Archive Raider
  • Top Contributor
  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • ***
  • Posts: 1413
Re: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter
« Reply #34 on: January 25, 2012, 08:59:54 am »
Proposed weapons loads....


Offline PaulMM (Overscan)

  • Secret Projects Forum Founder
  • Administrator
  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • *****
  • Posts: 10785
  • Paul Martell-Mead
    • Secret Projects
Re: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter
« Reply #35 on: January 25, 2012, 09:58:58 am »
Great stuff, loads of detail photos I've never seen before. Would be ideal for an article on the Fang...


The ventral intake is interesting, quite like the British P.1121, but the bubble canopy makes it look much more modern than 1953. Doesn't seem area-ruled however and Mach 2 seems doubtful.
"They can't see our arses for dust."
 
- Sir Sydney Camm

Offline archipeppe

  • Senior Member
  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • **
  • Posts: 1474
Re: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter
« Reply #36 on: January 25, 2012, 10:03:09 am »
Really great images!
Indeed the Fang looks like more Convair-ish than Northrop...

Offline Skyblazer

  • Global Moderator
  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • ****
  • Posts: 13244
Re: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter
« Reply #37 on: January 25, 2012, 10:37:18 am »
Indeed the Fang looks like more Convair-ish than Northrop...

I don't quite agree. There is something of the YA-9 in the front fuselage...

Offline archipeppe

  • Senior Member
  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • **
  • Posts: 1474
Re: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter
« Reply #38 on: January 25, 2012, 10:52:41 am »
I don't quite agree. There is something of the YA-9 in the front fuselage...

Of course, this is quite easy to understand since Fang and YA-9 are both Northrop product (even with 15 years of difference). My opinion was based upon some similiarities with Convair delta fighters of the time in which Fang was proposed...

Offline Mark Nankivil

  • Archive Raider
  • Top Contributor
  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • ***
  • Posts: 1413
Re: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter
« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2012, 02:14:57 pm »
It would be interesting to "build" a computer model and run it thru a virtual wind tunnel.  The leading edge camber - I thought that was a Convair design feature that evolved with their deltas.  Did the cambered leading edge instead come out of NACA studies?

The landing gear is awkward but I would love to build an R/C electric ducted fan model of the Fang - would look cool in the air...

Enjoy the Day! Mark

Offline Pioneer

  • Senior Member
  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • **
  • Posts: 1540
  • Seek out and close with the enemy
Re: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter
« Reply #40 on: January 26, 2012, 01:02:21 am »
  Wow thanks once again Mark, for delivering the goods once again!!
 The photo with the varies cannon options is interesting!
I thought the missiles on the mock-up were Aim-4 Falcon AAM’s.........but the last photo you posted emphasises that they are in fact two different sizes! Does anyone know what missiles they are??
The more I see of the Fang, the more I think it would have been a winner!!


Please keep them coming!!
 
Regards
Pioneer
 
And remember…remember the glory is not the exhortation of war, but the exhortation of man.
Mans nobility, made transcendent in the fiery crucible of war.
Faithfulness and fortitude.
Gentleness and compassion.
I am honored to be your brother.”

— Lt Col Ralph Honner DSO M

Offline pathology_doc

  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • ***
  • Posts: 789
Re: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter
« Reply #41 on: January 26, 2012, 04:36:07 am »
Pioneer, the one on the inboard pylon certainly looks like an AIM-4 (possibly a -4D, F, or G). I almost said AIM-4D and AIM-26B at first, but the inner missile doesn't quite have the right body shape for the -26B. The one on the outboard pylon looks like a miniaturised version (developed?), but I suspect we will need an "American Secret Projects: Ramjets, Missiles and Hypersonics" book to answer that question.
 
I agree with you that this is one of those projects that ought to have gone ahead. For now, it will just have to sit around Heaven's hangar with the P.1121, thin-wing Javelin and the like, dreaming about what might have been!

Offline Steve Pace

  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • ***
  • Posts: 2269
  • Aviation History Writer
Re: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter
« Reply #42 on: January 26, 2012, 08:59:15 am »
Thanks all - just very lucky to do this and find gold at times.

Here's a few more from Gerald's collection...

Enjoy the Day! Mark
The man on the left in photo # x107945-106 is none other than Edgar O. "Ed" Schmued - designer of the P-51 Mustang and Twin Mustang! - SP
« Last Edit: January 26, 2012, 09:01:11 am by XB-70 Guy »
When you know you're right, go ahead.

Offline Abraham Gubler

  • Senior Member
  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • **
  • Posts: 3559
Re: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter
« Reply #43 on: January 27, 2012, 09:51:11 pm »
Fantastic pictures Mark, now all we need is the Ginter monograph to complete the package.
"There is a tendency in our planning to confuse the unfamiliar with the improbable." Thomas Schelling

Offline Skyblazer

  • Global Moderator
  • CLEARANCE: Top Secret
  • ****
  • Posts: 13244
Re: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter
« Reply #44 on: January 28, 2012, 01:42:21 am »
Steve, still writing for Ginter?