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« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2015, 03:17:11 am »
Hammond Innes, Medusa, 1988

HMS Medusa
Type 12 (Leander Class) Frigate
Details as per the real ships.

Plot Summary: An ageing Royal Navy frigate with a scratch crew finds itself caught up in an attempt to seize Majorca for the Soviet Union.

Note: The cover of this book, while quite nice is also inaccurate, the artist (Kevin Tweddell) depicts the HMS Medusa as a Type 21 Frigate rather than the Type 12 Frigate the authors description clearly makes her out to be. The cover for the 2003 re-issue of the story paired with the authors 1960 novel The Doomed Oasis by artist Larry Rostant, is also inaccurate, while it depicts a scene from the novel, the ship depicted seems to be mix of several different country's warships, unless someone knows otherwise.
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« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2015, 07:15:17 am »
Geoffrey Jenkins, The Unripe Gold, 1983

MS Beryte

Libyan Armed Merchant Cruiser (Along with her sister ship the MS Bachir)

Weight: 12,000 tons
Armament: 4 x 130mm guns (Twin mounts), 8 x 57mm guns (twin mounts), SS-N-2 (triple mount), plus unspecified number of 20mm weapons (All weapons concealed under fake deck cargo.)
Also carries 2 x Ka-25 'Hormone' Helicopters
Hull form: Implied to be Three-Island rather than All-Aft.

Plot Summary: Colonel Gaddafi tries to get his hands on a large quantity of iridium, the key to a new form of fuel cell.


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« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2015, 05:01:25 pm »
Antony Trew, Two Hours to Darkness, 1963

HMS Retaliate
'Missile' (George Washington) Class Submarine
Details as per the real ships.
Note: One of six American George Washington Class Submarines sold to the United Kingdom, other class members named in the novel are HMS Deterrant and HMS Massive.

Plot Summary: The year is 1964. A British SSBN captain decides to carry out a live fire test of his submarines Polaris missiles. This one is definitely worth finding as it was born out of the controversies surrounding the cancellation of Skybolt and the American demands for a 'Dual-Key' system for Polaris.

Cover for the 1979 paperback, which depicts an image that is probably quite disconcerting for American readers (Note the flag on the sub...) was by Paul Wright.

The cover for the 1963 hardback release by John Rose, rather oddly, depicts the USS Nautilus (SSN-571). It appears to be based off a photograph taken during the Nautilus's sea trials in 1955. (Navsource: USS Nautilus during Sea Trials (1955)
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« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2015, 08:45:49 am »
Now for something completely different....

Geoffrey Jenkins, The Watering Place of Good Peace, 1960 (Rev 1974)

HMS Plymouth Sound

Sixth-Rate Frigate

Details as per the real ships. Aside from this detail, whoever designed the ship got the hullform right, she is one of the fastest sailing ships in the world, given that in the book she is chasing a ship capable of an average speed of 10.5 knots (Reasoning available on request) her average speed is probably pretty close to that.

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« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2015, 08:20:48 am »
Now back to a regular service....

Geoffrey Jenkins, A Twist of Sand, 1959

United Kingdom

HMS Trout
T-Class Submarine
Details as per the real ships.

Germany

NP-1
Experimental U-boat.
Weight: 3000 tons
Power: Nuclear
Propulsion: Water-Jet (Surface speed: 25 knots. Submerged speed: 22 knots.)
Armament: Probably the same as U-boats in the later stages of WWII. No surface armament.
Appearance: Hullform probably not much different to a standard U-boat. Conning tower looks like an airplane wing.

Plot summary: In 1941 a British submarine is given orders to hunt down and destroy a prototype U-boat that has the potential to win the war for Germany should it prove successful in combat. In 1959 the British submarines captain returns to the region seeking answers to events that occurred when he completed his mission.

Note: As written above the novel indicates these events involving HMS Trout & NP-1 take place in 1941 or 42 at the latest. The novels briefing scene however contains references to Type XXI U-Boats and Walther propulsion experiments neither of which existed until 1943. It is of note that the film version of the novel released in 1968 moves the events to 1943.

Note: I've managed to locate a copy of the 5th printing of the 1959 hardback edition, cover artist as for the first printing of 'Two Hours to Darkness' is John Rose.
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Re: Fictional Warships - Novels
« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2015, 06:08:49 am »
Douglas Reeman, The Greatest Enemy, 1970

United Kingdom

HMS Terrapin
Type 16 Frigate (ex T-Class destroyer)
Details as per the real ships.

China (Peoples Republic)

Unnamed
Chinese submarine, class not specified, but may be a Type 033 (Romeo Class) or Type 03  (Whiskey Class).
Details regards dimensions as per the real submarine classes (Whichever one the author intended.) The armament adds a retractable surface-to-surface rocket launcher mounted forward of the conning tower.

Plot Summary: A disgraced RN captain tries to find redemption by bringing new purpose to the dispirited crew of an ageing frigate nearing it's pay off date.

Note: This is the novel I always think of when reading David Poyer's 'China Sea' (2000).
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Re: Fictional Warships - Novels
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2015, 01:39:51 am »
Thanks for sharing these again, I've long missed the original thread, and the rest of, Warship Discussion 3.0.

Over at Shipbucket I've collected a list of fictional ships from books and film from a wide variety of sources, from old children's books available on Project Gutenberg, other maritime fiction sites, Wikipedia (the list there is now somewhat shorter due to over-zealous editing) and films I've come across over the years.
The sources are not recorded in my list. Instead I've offered it as a "whatifian" library of names to show how these ships might fit into a 'real/alt-world' scenario and noting name clashes or naming conventions they don't meet and some basic descriptions where available and 'best guesses' to allow them to be slotted in for alternate history purposes. Generally I don't record obviously sci-fi vessels (1000ft long submarines etc.) or names like HMAS Bondi Beach for a carrier. There are no sailing ships either, that genre would add some considerable length! Interesting inventions like 1910 conceptions of what cruisers might be like in 1925 are listed and sometimes the odd aircraft concept gets thrown in too.

http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5756&p=134373#p134373

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« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2015, 04:01:52 am »
Hood, thanks for linking to that and for preserving the contents of Wikipedia's list of Fictional Ships. If there are any on this list that have not appeared on yours feel free to add. BTW, do you know if anyone on Shipbucket has tried to do an illustration of any of the ships on the list?

You may wish to amend the USS Barrett entry, it's definitely a Kidd Class.

Now to end the year with a little panache....

Tom Clancy, Clear and Present Danger, 1989

USCGC Panache

280ft Coast Guard Cutter (Only ship in class, others cancelled by budget cuts.)

Power: Diesel
Propulsion: Twin screw? (Speed 25 knots.)
Armament: 1x 40mm, Unspecified number of .50 mgs (Most likely somewhere between 2 & 6, based on real life examples.)
Fitted with a helipad large enough to take a Sikorsky MH-53.

Plot Summary: A routine interception of an attempt to smuggle cocaine into the United States discovers a massive money laundering operation and leads to attempts to take a 'gloves off' approach to the Columbian Cartels.

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Re: Fictional Warships - Novels
« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2015, 04:41:35 am »
Ahem - if I may be allowed to mention my own book - The Foresight War http://quarryhs.co.uk/TFWreviews.htm  which describes a number of fictional WW2 RN warships, including:

KGV class designed around reused 15" turrets (from R class battleships as well as surplus) to save time and money;

A new "frigate" light cruiser/fleet escort of around 4,500 tons with four twin 4.7" L/50 DP, instead of Didos;

Different destroyers and convoy escorts.

I was intrigued to read in Friedman's new book on British battleships that the Admiralty did in fact suggest in 1937 not just modifying the KGV design to take the four surplus 15" turrets, but also building more such ships and arming them with turrets taken from the obsolescent R class battleships as they were retired. Which is exactly what I proposed in my novel.  B)


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Re: Fictional Warships - Novels
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2015, 04:46:46 am »
Truth is indeed often stranger than fiction!
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Re: Fictional Warships - Novels
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2015, 04:48:41 am »
Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn't - Mark Twain

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« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2015, 05:56:45 am »
Due to the surge of interest...

Laurence Delaney, The Triton Ultimatum, 1977

USS Lewis & Clark (SSGN - 999)

Triton Class

Armament: 24x Posedion (? Description sounds more like Tridents...) Missiles, 6 Torpedo tube launched cruise missiles (Tomahawk?), Unspecified number of torpedo tubes (Probably 21in)

Single Shaft propulsion. Speed not specified.

Plot Summary: Extortionists steal a nuclear submarine and demand the usual ransom or else they launch...

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« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2016, 01:01:08 am »
For my first post of the year, a novel featuring fictional ships from two eras.

Geoffrey Jenkins, A Grue of Ice, 1962

Fictional Warships (WWII)

HMS Scott - Destroyer(?)
Meteor - German Commerce Raider (Details/Armament much the same as the others of her type save that one 5.9in gun was left at her crews secret base.)

Fictional Warships (1961)

Thorshammer

Ninth(?) Type 12 (Whitby Class) Frigate (Referred to as a 'Destroyer' throughout the novel.)

Details much as the original ships, save that she carries a flying boat (Described as an He-114), presumably aft, meaning that some armament located there may have been deleted to make room for the handling equipment. Only armament mentioned in the novel are the 2x 4.5in in the forward turret, 2x 40mm (STAAG?) aft of the emergency conning position, and at least 8 torpedo tubes of a size not specified but probably 21 in.

Plot Summary: An amateur ocean scientists attempt to prove the existence of a warm current in the South Atlantic becomes tangled in a madmans attempt to find a long lost island and the mineral wealth it contains.

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« Reply #28 on: January 01, 2016, 05:29:48 am »
An appearance of a fictional warship in a non-war novel loosely based on the Donald Crowhurst saga.

Antony Trew, Sea Fever, 1980

USS Skippack (SSN-???)
Skipjack Class Submarine?
Details as per the real ships.
Note: Class has been determined solely from the name. No specifics are provided by the author.

Her role in the story is as follows, while on a transit to Guantanamo Bay her crew takes some R-rated photographs of a yacht through the attack periscope. Interestingly the boat in question is only supposed to have one person aboard...

As that person puts it when he reaches England, "Peeping Toms, aren't they - these submariners."
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« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2016, 02:49:59 pm »
Clive Cussler, Iceberg, 1975 & Deep Six, 1984

USCGC Catawaba

Referred to in the first novel as "...the Coast Guard's newest supercutter..." and in the second simply as a 'cutter' the ship is diesel propelled and has a helipad aft, but few other details provided save that the crew strength is 177 (17 officers, 160 men).

MS Hobson (Mentioned in Deep Six)

Armed Merchant Cruiser (AMC) operated by the CIA, converted from an Attack Cargo Transport (AKA), armament included unspecified missiles.

HMS Pathfinder (Mentioned in Deep Six)

British 'Missile Destroyer'

Aircraft mavens may be interested to know that in the first novel the Coast Guard has been given what are implied to be KC-135s for iceberg spotting...
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