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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2014, 09:28:29 am »
Tentatively aimed at "Summer".
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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2014, 02:29:24 pm »
Awww... that's not New Zealand summer, is it?

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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2014, 03:59:47 pm »
No, European summer. Do you still get those? :D


Don't forget these things often slip, but I am pretty confident on getting everything done in the next couple of months.
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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #33 on: December 30, 2014, 12:00:20 am »
No, European summer. Do you still get those? :D
Summer over here is sunny enough to give us a tan when we're out camping , or just tending the garden  :)
Don't forget these things often slip, but I am pretty confident on getting everything done in the next couple of months.
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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #34 on: December 30, 2014, 02:31:38 pm »
The drawing was done by Barrie Hygate so credit goes to him. I am just editing line widths, styles,colours and other aspects of the drawing to make it ready for publication.


Many of his detailed 5 view drawings are best reproduced at A3 size. They may be released as a PDF supplement for purchasers of the book for printing at home - this would be especially interesting for modellers I think.



Paul,


I roundly salute your generous innovation of releasing the drawings as PDFs. 


I have hundreds of books of beautiful aircraft drawings, except their usefulness to me as a modeler is restricted by their being bound in those books or even worse, spanning across two pages or "guttered" as a friend in the publishing business put it.  The only way to make those bookbound drawings useable is to draw and quarter the precious book, which I am sure most of us are reluctant to do to our treasures. 


Go forth and PDF.


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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #35 on: December 30, 2014, 07:03:40 pm »
Rivets? Never be seen in the final print at 300dpi so why bother?

Chris


First off, I will be buying this book regardless of the final rivet count. As for the reproduction res: line art is burned to the printing plate at high resolution--I don't know what's the current standard, but I'd guess 3600 dpi at least. Even at that, the line art will tend to heavy up. One needs to try and envision the final product, which is not perfectly previewable with modern print tools. Ideally, you can rely on the press supervisor to tell you what's going to look best, line-weight- and dot-size-wise. --Ian

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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #36 on: January 06, 2015, 03:57:03 pm »
In case anyone notices, this quick mockup has a few typos and is not representative of the final product. He's a drawing I'm editing right now. Question - a former Hawker engineer detests the rivets on the access doors - what is the general feeling?
Are they rivets or the fasteners for the access doors.  My own experience is that the fasteners show up whereas rivets don't.
 
BTW, this book is definitely on my "MUST!" list for 2015.

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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2015, 11:06:02 am »
I took another couple looks at the last drawing you posted a portion of, it looks like you've got a single-seat version depicted as was as a couple two-seaters, one with tandem seating and one with side-by-side seating.  Am I interpreting the clues correctly?  Accurate information on those variants could be most useful.

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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2015, 11:14:02 pm »
Yes there was a tandem twin seater strike version designed to GOR.339, and a side by side twin seater naval strike fighter. The first version, there are multiple drawings and two brochures documenting it, the naval strike fighter is documented only in minor mentions and a drawing.
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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2015, 06:17:46 am »
It would be nice if the other Blue Envoy Press publications weren't out of print/stock.  Any chance of reruns?

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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2015, 12:46:36 pm »
Out of stock? That's Amazonese for 'Can't be arsed keeping it in stock or ordering any.'

They are also available from The Aviation Bookshop (Kent), Aviation Book Centre (Warks) and Word Power (Edinburgh)

Cross my palm with silver and you can have them all direct.

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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #41 on: August 27, 2015, 08:46:40 am »
Any update on this book's  release?

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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #42 on: August 31, 2015, 01:42:58 am »
We're working hard for 2 November release date. Some problems have been encountered in production but the book is now complete awaiting final editing checks and then print. As its printed in the good old UK, we don't need to wait for shipping from China.

Can't be later than 2 November if I'm going to be at Telford 2015 signing the buggers :)
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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #43 on: August 31, 2015, 11:26:36 am »
We're working hard for 2 November release date. Some problems have been encountered in production but the book is now complete awaiting final editing checks and then print. As its printed in the good old UK, we don't need to wait for shipping from China.

Can't be later than 2 November if I'm going to be at Telford 2015 signing the buggers :)

This is great news - can't wait to see it. It's going to astonish a lot of people and blow everything ever written elsewhere about the P.1103/P.1121 out of the water.

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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #44 on: August 31, 2015, 11:38:55 am »
Great news - where can we purchase if we're not at Telford?