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Re: Tupolev Tu-2000 & other VKS projects
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2007, 01:17:52 pm »
Thanks a bunch flateric. The drawing clearly shows a version of the Tu-2000A demonstrator. If only I had had this three-view two years ago... (see my post #2).

There seem to be some differences from the images in my first post, for example the wings look more trapezoidal. Also, it looks like the 'cavities' I was wondering about are turbojet exhausts - do others agree with this interpretation of the three-view?

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Re: Tupolev Tu-2000 & other VKS projects
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2007, 02:01:48 pm »
Interesting that NASP contractors team has prove to DoD and NASA that DuPont idea of 60-70 tonnes aerospace plane is implausible - note this demonstrator weight...moving the same way, one step back...
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Re: Tupolev Tu-2000 & other VKS projects
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2008, 02:55:22 pm »
Various full-scale test articles, built by ANTK Tupolev during Tu-2000 program golden age.
Note LACE test equipment.
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Re: Tupolev Tu-2000 & other VKS projects
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2008, 02:57:21 pm »
ANTK Tupolev LH2 ground refueling/test complex built in Gromov's LII for Tu-155 was, in future, intended for Tu-2000 program as well.
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Re: Tupolev Tu-2000 & other VKS projects
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2008, 03:11:27 pm »
Tu-2000 under 'Oryol-2-1' brand as of 1998
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Re: Tupolev Tu-2000 & other VKS projects
« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2008, 04:14:02 am »
Thank you so much (once again) flateric! Funny how just a few days ago I resumed work on my Tu-2000A 3D model that I started almost a year ago based on the three-view you posted.

Almost all sources on the Tu-2000 program state that "a nickel-alloy wing torque box, some fuselage elements, liquid hydrogen tanks and fuel pipes made of unique composite material" were built before 1992, of which I was somewhat sceptical. But now we have pictorial proof. Can you give us the source? Also, if possible, for the three-view, now that we're at it?

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Re: Tupolev Tu-2000 & other VKS projects
« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2008, 04:18:55 am »
Source

Russian aerospace plane TU-2000
Pukhov, Aleksandr L., Aviation Scientific and Technical Establishment, Moscow, Russia
AIAA-1993-5055
AIAA and DGLR, International Aerospace Planes and Hypersonics Technologies Conference, 5th, Munich, Germany, Nov 30-Dec 3, 1993

No 3-view in this short 3-page article...I think you should take Oryol/FESTIP drawings posted earlier, as a basis for 3D model...
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Re: Tupolev Tu-2000 & other VKS projects
« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2008, 04:25:17 am »
Sorry, I meant the Tu-2000A three-view in reply #14 (http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,220.msg23538.html#msg23538).

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Re: Tupolev Tu-2000 & other VKS projects
« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2008, 04:34:28 am »
To my sorrow, I have nothing more than that (thanks God for having these at least!)
BTW, new Tu-2000 model pics from Alex Panchenko's site
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Re: Tupolev Tu-2000 & other VKS projects
« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2008, 05:10:14 am »
Okay, thanks anyway. It seems the drawing comes from a book, though.
And, don't get me wrong, but those pics are some years old already. Still worth posting. :)

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Re: Tupolev Tu-2000 & other VKS projects
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2008, 02:56:37 pm »
Amazing stuff flateric, thanks!

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Re: Tupolev Tu-2000 & other VKS projects
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2009, 12:57:16 pm »
Museum-quality model of the Tupolev Tu-2000 at the USSR-Russian Aviation and Space Collectibles web site. Images of the model have been previously posted by flateric over multiple posts.

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Little over 14 inches lenght (35 cm), exact scale 1/200 custom made for museums display model of Tupolev`s TU-2000 transport spaceplane. Availability and price check by e-mail or call. Details on TU-2000: In reaction to US X-30 project, government decrees of 27 January and 19 July 1986 ordered development of a Soviet equivalent. The Ministry of Defence issued technical specifications on 1 September for an MVKS, a single-stage reusable aerospaceplane system. The MKVS was to provide effective and economic delivery to near-earth orbit; develop the technology for effective transatmospheric flight; provide super high-speed intercontinental transport, and fulfil military objectives in and from space. It is known that the Tupolev, Yakovlev, and Energia design bureaux submitted designs. Tupolev seems to have received the development go-ahead. The Tu-2000A was to be an experimental design to test the many advanced technologies required. It would have been 55 to 60 m long, have a 14 m wingspan, and a takeoff mass of 70 to 90 tonnes. It would have only been capable of Mach 6. Before work was stopped in 1992, some development work was completed: a wing torque box of nickel alloy had been built, as well as fuselage elements, cryogenic fuel tanks, and composite fuel lines. The Tu-2000A would have used a variable cycle turboramjet engine using methane or hydrogen fuel. The Tu-2000A was to have been followed by two production designs, as Tupolev felt no single design could meet all of the military requirements. The Tu-2000B would have been a 10,000 km range bomber with a crew of two. 350 tonnes at takeoff, 200 tonnes empty, it would have been 100 m long, with a wing of 40.7 m span and 1250 square metres area. Six liquid hydrogen powered engines would take the bomber to Mach 6 cruise speed at 30,000 m altitude. The Tu-2000 space launcher would have weighted 260 tonnes at lift-off and be capable of Mach 25 (orbital velocity). An 8 to 10 tonne payload would have been delivered to a 200 km orbit. As with the X-30, airbreathing flight to orbit seemed questionable. The 8 turboramjets would have to be supplemented by a scramjet or a rocket engine in order to achieve orbit. Liftoff Thrust: 90,000 kgf. Liftoff Thrust: 900.00 kN. Total Mass: 90,000 kg. Core Diameter: 13.00 m. Total Length: 72.00 m.
http://www.ussr-airspace.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=24_53&products_id=2248
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Re: Tupolev Tu-2000 & other VKS projects
« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2009, 09:47:18 am »
 In the latest issue of "Aviation and Cosmonautics" by a group of authors: V. Solozobov, A.Slobodchikov, M. Kazakov and V. Rigmant initiated a historical review of work Tupolev's Design Bureau in the development of hypersonic aircraft. Some projects in the open press published the first time.
This article describes the following projects:
1) An experimental unmanned gliding aerospaceplane "130" (TU-130) on DP programm.
             additional info: http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/tupolev/130/130.htm
2) Project of a manned rocket plane "136" (TU-136) on "Star" programm.
             additional info: http://www.sergib.agava.ru/russia/tupolev/136/136.htm
3) Project of a hypersonic aircraft - "139" / 1(equivalent of American experimental aircraft X15),
    the start was made with the Tu-95K.
    - "139" / 2 (project heavy strategic supersonic aircraft carrier / one of the derivative bomber  Tu-135K /)
   Later in 1964 under the designation Tu-139, DBR-2, "Yastreb-2" were the work of recon UAV that is " 139 / 3.
4) The end of the sixties started work on one-step aerospace plane =Воздушно-космическим   самолетам (ВКС) / (VKS) with a horizontal launch and landing and a nuclear rocket engine.
5) Project Single-space plane ОДНОСТУПЕНЧАТОГО ОРБИТАЛЬНОГО САМОЛЕТА (ООС)(SSTO) in the program for aerospace systems= авиационно-космическим системам (AKS), start with the super-heavy aircraft carrier.


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Re: Tupolev Tu-2000 & other VKS projects
« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2009, 09:50:15 am »
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Re: Tupolev Tu-2000 & other VKS projects
« Reply #29 on: December 24, 2009, 12:14:06 pm »
Wow! The AKS reminds me of the proposed XB-70/Dyna-Soar combo.

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