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Re: FCS - Future Combat Systems - Evolution
« Reply #62 on: July 01, 2013, 10:08:03 am »
From the mid-2000s, the French answer to FCS: bulle opérationnelle aéroterrestre (BOA) (Air/Land Operational Bubble Net-Enabled Close-Combat System)

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On 8 December 2005 the French Defense Procurement Agency (DGA) awarded the Thales led team a 129 million Euros contract to develop a concept design demonstrator for BOA1. The program will span over seven years and include the establishment of an integrated battle lab, where new concepts will be studied in a realistic, synthetic virtual environment, using collaborative development tools and simulators. An engineering study of "system of systems" will be evaluate advanced architectures and technologies for close combat, that could be used for in the future by the French Army.

A new network-enabled system called TACTIC3 will be developed as part of this study. TACTIC3 will provide network-enabled architecture supporting close combat operations in the air-land theater, including infantry, armor, UAVs and sensors. This technology demonstrator will  provide an important step toward the future BOA, enabling operational evaluation of the benefits derived by new net-enabled capabilities (including collective protection, situational awareness, employment of precision indirect fire etc.) Such tests will be representative of a joint regimental-level operation.
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Re: FCS - Future Combat Systems - Evolution
« Reply #63 on: July 02, 2013, 04:35:29 am »
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a534965.pdf

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           The French Armed Forces has interest in weapons, autonomy, and night vision
and electronic sensors related to robots, particularly for countermine and demining applications.
The tank-based AMX30B2DT minefield breacher built by Giat Industries is an
example of a UGV for countermine operations. The remotely controlled robot passed its
testing in 2005, and plans for procurement of 10 tele-operated systems are reported.

          For advanced concepts for robotic operations, Thales is heading a consortium to
develop the Bulle Opérationnelle Aéroterrestre (BOA) (French Air/Land Operational
Bubble networked air-land warfare concept) demonstrator (see Figure III-3). BOA, a
€ 144-M, 7-year French defense procurement effort, is a network-enabled, close-combat
system. BOA introduces new concepts of net-centric warfighting with existing and future
forces, as it ties together all the assets in the air-land theatre, including land vehicles, sensors,
UAVs and infantry in mounted and dismounted formations. Integration of robotics
is a major part of the effort. Planning started in 2000, and work commenced in 2005.

          Other BOA project participants include Groupe SAGEM, Giat Industries, the
European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company (EADS), and MBDA (jointly owned
by BAE Systems, EADS, and Finmeccanica).44 The € 144-M budget appropriation does
not provide a breakdown showing the amount of funding that will be dedicated to UGV.
However, initial planning documents identified ground robots as a significant focus of
the effort and cited a figure of € 10M for 10 teleoperated AMX 30 tanks and € 8M for
image processing to support increased autonomy and improved teleoperation.45 These
efforts comprise only part of the planned effort (and by logical extension, probable
investment) in ground robotics.

           As part of the BOA and in support of advanced integrated soldier systems, France
has been pursuing a family of smaller robots under the Mini-Robots de Choc (MiniROC)
program. This is a family of vehicles (see Figures III-4a–4c) is primarily intended for use
by dismounted soldiers in assault missions, with an emphasis on urban operations. The
family of systems features three complementary designs:
          1. A manportable UGV called the Petit Robot Modulaire (PRM) (see Figure
             III-4a)

          2. A somewhat larger (130-kg), wheeled, articulated UGV known as Robot
             Eclaireur Reconnaissance (REC) (see Figure III-4b)

          3. The smallest of the MiniROC vehicles, a 2.1-kg Inbot Mini Robot Specialise
             (MRS) developed for reconnaissance in confined areas such as inside
             buildings and tunnels and underneath vehicles (see Figure III-4c).46

          The Laboratoire d’Intégration des Systèmes et des Technologies (LIST) (Laboratory
for Systems Integration and Technology) of the Commissariat à l’Énergie Atomique
(CEA) (French Atomic Energy Commission), is a Center of Excellence for robotics.
Research interests include man-machine interfaces, the mechanical design of complex
systems, novel actuators, and intelligent control. The Interactive Robotics Unit includes
engineers, technicians, and students, a Mesorobotics and Robotics Laboratory, and a
Cobotics and Telerobotics Laboratory. The laboratory also conducts research concerning
sensors and signal processing, with potential application to robotics.


44     Projet de loi de finance pour 2008. Defense-Environnement et soutien de la politique de defence.
       (Finance Bill for 2008. Defense-Environment and support for defence policy). Available:
       http://www.senat.fr/rap/a07-094-7/a07-094-71.html (Accessed January 2008).

45    Delegation Generale Pour L'Armement (DGA) (General Delegation for Ordnance) Press Release.
       6 June 2002. Project BOA (Bulle Operationelle Aeroterrestre).

46    Defense Update Web Page. MiniRoc. Available:
       http://www.defense-update.com/products/m/miniROC.htm (Accessed January 2008).

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Re: FCS - Future Combat Systems - Evolution
« Reply #64 on: November 11, 2013, 11:11:20 am »
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Re: FCS - Future Combat Systems - Evolution
« Reply #65 on: July 26, 2018, 02:53:13 am »
Okay start with an M-1 chassis, replace Javelin with CKEM, the 25mm with a GAU-8, Stinger with RAM. . .that oughta do it.  ;)


Better to redesign the M1 and put the engine/transmission up front like the Merkava, that way you would have a rear entrance and space available for troops or other equipment. 

In the 1970's, I saw concepts for a MIAG (Mechanized infantry Assault Gun, AFAIK), that had a six man dismount team, with a vehicle that was armored to tank standards and had an external 105mm cannon. I wsa never able to find much more information on it then the picture and sadly lost that some years ago (so if anyone can help me there...), but the designed seemed very effective although It came out during the hysteria about the Russian introduction of Reactive armor where people were talking about the unstoppable red horde tanks laughing off TOWS on their march to France, so I'm not certain if there was any real work done on it or if it was a artist concept only.

Came across a ARMOR (Jan-Feb 1972) article on the MIAG yesterday. Pages 34 - 41 (PDF pages 36 - 43). Unfortunately Charles Gray hasn't been online since August 2011.
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Re: FCS - Future Combat Systems - Evolution
« Reply #66 on: July 26, 2018, 07:36:11 am »
An amazing find Grey Havoc. Having a crew of 5 but not infantry was interesting.

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Re: FCS - Future Combat Systems - Evolution
« Reply #67 on: July 26, 2018, 07:40:04 am »
Thanks. I'll set up a separate topic for it.
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Re: FCS - Future Combat Systems - Evolution
« Reply #68 on: December 10, 2018, 09:09:53 am »

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US Army
Lockheed Martin's "Animal," the prototype for the XM1217 transport, a component of the Future Combat Systems program, which the Army canceled in 2009.

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/25350/this-robot-the-10th-mountain-is-testing-could-become-the-armys-revolutionary-mechanical-donkey
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