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Offline borovik

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Parasite fighters
« on: July 02, 2007, 01:17:09 pm »
  Suspension (parasite) fighter D.Pokorzhevskiy
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 Technical requirement on designing gave OKB Myasishchуev.
   Dimensions Span:5,2m
                   Lenght :4,5m
   Engine: One 1590kg (3,500lb) license Rolls-Royce Derwent
   Armament :2 x 20 or 23mm
   Weights loaded 1850 kg
  Accounting time of the flight 10 - 15 minutes.
  Projections of this plane were provided in one scale with Goblin
 
  Source: Kryl'ya rodiny  magazine 8' 1995

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Re: Parasite fighters
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2007, 11:55:49 am »
  The Potential carrier - a Myasischev heavy long range strategic bomber . ОКB-482 (1946)
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  1) project with AM-39FTK, piston engine
      accounting range -14000 km
      max speed -625 km/h
  2) with turboprop engine
      max speed -700-750 km/h
  3) with turbojet
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      crew - 14 person
      weight empty - 65000 kg
                loaded - 112000 kg
                bombloaded normal, -4000 kg
                                 max, -20000 kg
      armament gun - 10 x 23 mm
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 Project HLRSB OKB-482 in perfect impression J.Gatial  :  http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1660.0.html
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 Source : S.GANIN. A.KARPENKO V.KOLNOGOROV "Homeland (russian) bombers" Vol. 1  2001
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Re: Parasite fighters
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2007, 12:07:25 pm »
Great Find Borovik. Thanks.

Any idea about he time frame of these concepts ?

A long time ago, I saw a drawing from a Russian publication of a Tu-4 with four(6?) parasite
aircraft below the wings.Unfortunately the drawing is lost.
Parasite aircraft were of a different configuration. Could they
be from the Yakovlev OKB ?

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Re: Parasite fighters
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2007, 01:21:59 pm »
  Aircraft Complex of the Interception Striking Enemy Aircraft.
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  In 1948 in  OKB-115 A.YAKOVLEV  was winnowed development of the light small fighter Yak-40 (first with this name) with powerful cannon arms.
  Aircraft complex of the interception striking enemy aircraft with use  plane-wombs and fighters-interceptors  with small length of the flight.


(Apologize for its bad english  :'()
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Re: Parasite fighters
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2007, 10:54:28 am »
This is the one.Thanks!

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Re: Parasite fighters
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2007, 12:05:57 am »
On this topic, Convair designed a nuclear-powered anti-submarine warfare flying boat in the late 1950's that was to carry two parasite fighters. A 30-inch-diameter tunnel would lead through the wings to the fighters, allowign the pilot to spend his time in  the main aircraft's spacious fuselage. But the ride down the length of the tunnel would have had to have been pretty spooky... because shielding that holw tunnel adequately would be weight prohibitive, so the pilot would get nuked in transit. Fun...

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Re: Parasite fighters
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2008, 04:36:11 am »
Video of XF-85 Goblin on YouTube:


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Re: Parasite fighters
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2012, 09:58:38 am »
From War Eagles Air Museum, an article on the Goblin:
http://www.war-eagles-air-museum.com/newsletters/weam_newsletter_2012-1.pdf
 
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Re: Parasite fighters
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2012, 01:29:26 pm »
Weaver - great video I always watch this early test flight stuff with amazement so dangerous, crazy.

I also think of "News article from the future/past"

XF-85 Goblin cancelled after turbulence causes pilot to crash land.  Congressional inquiry to investigate billion dollar defense boondoggle.

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Re: Parasite fighters
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2015, 07:37:24 pm »

Hypothetical CONVAIR "GB-60" Turboprop Picket Patrol Mothership & McDonnell F-85A/B Goblin Parasite Fighters With Trapeze Capture System
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Re: Parasite fighters
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2015, 11:58:47 pm »
Hi!

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Re: Parasite fighters
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2015, 02:00:00 pm »
Drawings of the 1948 Yakovlev development of the light small parasite fighter, the Yak-40 (first use of the designation).

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Аэрокосмическое обозрение 2013-06 (Aerospace Review issue 67)

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Re: Parasite fighters
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2016, 08:31:18 am »
Cutaway McDonnell XF-85 Goblin, author Ramay for McDonnell date 6-5-1946

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Re: Parasite fighters
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2016, 09:37:18 pm »
Good stuff, Motocar, I had never seen this one.
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Re: Parasite fighters
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2017, 08:28:04 pm »
Model of Convair parasite fighter found on eBay.

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CONVAIR AIRCRAFT USAF Strategic Bomber Parasite Fighter Concep Model. Metal construction with a 5" fuselage and 3.5" wingspan. This was originally part of a larger bomber proposal that included this and other style parasite fighter designs. Near mint with just a small paint chip to one wingtip.

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/CONVAIR-USAF-Bomber-Parasite-Fighter-Factory-IN-HOUSE-Metal-Desk-Display-Model/162683627313?hash=item25e0b32731%3Ag%3A62gAAOSwIdpZxZCS
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Re: Parasite fighters
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2017, 09:59:46 pm »
That fell off a Douglas 1211 bomber ...

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Re: Parasite fighters
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2017, 05:19:14 am »
Nice find Triton,

it's Convair XP-92 in parasite configuration.

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Re: Parasite fighters
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2019, 05:02:02 am »
https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/529372.pdf

investigation for small jet fighters loaded on the huge transport aircraft

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Re: Parasite fighters
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2019, 05:56:09 am »
Cutaway D. Podorzhevskiy, Soviet concet parasite Fighter author Motocar


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Re: Parasite fighters
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2019, 04:57:42 am »
Cutaway D.Pokorzhovskiy, now wiht key cutaway, author Aviagraphica and modified by Motocar
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Re: Parasite fighters
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2019, 05:06:39 am »
Nice work my dear Motocar.

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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2019, 06:08:27 pm »
New cutaway image...!

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Re: Parasite fighters
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2019, 07:14:04 am »
Real documents from Pokarzhevsky archiev

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« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2019, 11:26:55 am »
Real documents from Pokarzhevsky archiev

Oh my God,many thanks my dear Ucon.

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« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2019, 05:42:48 pm »
Thanks ucon for that data. Motocar