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Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« on: July 02, 2007, 01:14:04 pm »
The world's largest land plane, the XC-99, made its first flight in San Diego on 23 November 1947. The XC-99, serial 43-52436, is a double deck transport variant of the B-36. It has a considerably larger fuselage, but was never fitted with jet pods. The wingspan is the same 230 feet, but the fuselage is 23 feet longer at 185 feet. The payload of the XC-99 was 101,000 pounds or 400 fully equipped troops.

Delivered to the Air Force on November 23, 1949, the XC-99 was retired in 1957. Following its retirement, the XC-99 was on public display at Kelly Air Force Base near San Antonio, Texas until 1993 when it was moved to Wright Patterson Air Force Base for restoration.


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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2007, 10:29:25 pm »
Not sure if the entire plane has been moved yet. Saw some pictures online that show that the upper deck has been cut off and shipped to Dayton, along with much of the wings and tail except for the main spars and such.


Production version with nose door and new cockpit

Proposed jet powered version

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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2007, 01:13:17 am »
Canisd,

please could you tell me the source of this pictures?
The production version profile is right, but I have been reading Magnesium Overcast by Dennis R Jenkins (page 33) and a VDT engined version was studied but there is no single mention about a C-99 jet powered version.

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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2007, 05:33:14 am »
You can find this cutaway drawing at airwar.ru
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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2007, 06:15:20 am »
Muchas gracias Golfus!

A similar cutaway (English text) is also included on Mr Jenkins's B-36 book.

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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2007, 09:00:02 am »
I modified drawings I scanned from my copy of B-36 in Action based on the drawing of the production C-99 in Magnesium Overcast, the one posted by Golfus.
I also found a large exploded drawing of a proposed jet powered C-99 while surfing the vast and infinite web. It may have even been here, I'm not sure.

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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2007, 03:01:26 pm »
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I also found a large exploded drawing of a proposed jet powered C-99 while surfing the vast and infinite web. It may have even been here, I'm not sure.


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that's another mistery solved by secretprojects forum team:

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2931511060048918155qsFJEH

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Seen here was the next logical step for Convair, marrying the swept-back wings of the YB-60 and the fuselage of the XC-99. The Model 6, however, retained the rounded cockpit of the B-36 rather than the airliner-style windows of the XC-99 (Model 37). The YB-60 was Convair's proposal for a large long-range heavy bomber; this was based on the B-36. Only two YB-60s were built; the USAF opted for Boeing's Model 464 (better known as the B-52) instead. This rare illustration comes from Dennis Jenkins et al., "B-36 Photo Scrapbook," (Hinckley, Leics.: Specialty Press, 2003), p. 85. This is the companion book to "Magnesium Overcast," by the same authors.

That's why sources are so important, to never get lost in a ocean of information

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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2009, 09:32:15 pm »
Have done drawings of the C-99 last year, who's interested in a
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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2009, 03:37:33 pm »
Convair Model 37 designed to carry 204 passengers based on the XC-99.

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Using the wings and the engines of the mighty B-36 bomber, Convair proposed a huge doubledeck USAF transport. Designers imagined a passenger-carrying version of this land-based postwar leviathin, offering a level of luxury that would have even put the spectacular Boeing 377 Stratocruiser to shame. (Source: unknown)
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2944279650048918155ZfCbGi
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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2009, 03:46:43 pm »
Cross section artist impression of Convair Model 37. Interior design by Henry Dreyfus.
http://www.aggregat456.com/2009/06/designing-friendly-skies.html
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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2010, 01:04:52 pm »
Nice artist's impression of a civilian Model 37 liner from a 1945 Time Magazine advertisement.

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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2010, 01:24:57 pm »
99 ( ;)!) pictures of the Convair XC-99 at SDASM Archives. Some pictures are in colour, others show the cockpit.
Link: http://www.flickr.com/search/?ss=2&w=49487266%40N07&q=XC-99&m=text
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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2010, 01:56:59 pm »
Hi all,

found this pic from the Convair Model 6 there: http://aviationtrivia.blogspot.com/

Do you have a good drawing...

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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2010, 01:58:43 pm »
Looks like a BUFF had a midair with a B-36!

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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2010, 05:10:18 pm »
 
Isn't that the XC-99 with YB-60 wings & tail?

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« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2011, 12:55:54 pm »
XC-99 via Life magazine. -SP
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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2011, 04:01:37 pm »
Photograph of Convair XC-99 take-off from Code One magazine website:

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The Convair XC-99, a prototype heavy cargo aircraft built for the US Air Force, was the largest piston-engined land-based transport aircraft ever built. It was derived from the B-36 bomber. The first flight was on 23 November 1947 in San Diego, California. After initial testing, the giant aircraft was delivered to the Air Force on 23 November 1949. The XC-99 is currently being restored for eventual display at the National Museum of the US Air Force at Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio.

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http://www.codeonemagazine.com/gallery_slideshow.html?item_id=1263

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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2011, 09:04:00 pm »
From GoletaBrian, at the Goleta Air & Space Museum, on YouTube:

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The prototype Convair XC-99 made its first flight at San Diego, California on November 23, 1947. It was powered by six 28-cylinder, 4,360-cubic-inch radial engines. From Air Force Engineering Division Film: Experimental and Research Aircraft.




From AVhistorybuff on YouTube:

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Color video of Convair's wide-body transport derivitive of the B-36. Video starts with a landing of a B-36B at Convair's Fort Worth plant followed by the giant XC-99 rolling out to the runway for a slow takeoff.




Image of Convair XC-99.

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http://www.stinsonflyer.com/sf-99.htm
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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2011, 09:42:55 pm »
Pan American World Airways "Preview of Tomorrow's Flying Clippers" post card set showcasing the Convair Model 37.

"Cross-section showing 'private club' comforts"
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23269353@N00/4981252212/in/photostream

"Sleep in the clouds"
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23269353@N00/4981252196/in/photostream/

"Sky-lounge for refreshments"
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23269353@N00/4981252196/in/photostream/

"Clipper Express--When hours and dollars count"
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23269353@N00/4980646499/in/photostream/

"In-flight business conference"
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23269353@N00/4980646489/in/photostream/

"Departure time on the high-road in the air"
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23269353@N00/4981252120/in/photostream/

"Air-conditioned for five miles a minute flight"
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23269353@N00/4980646441/in/photostream/

"Roomy reclining chairs"
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23269353@N00/4980646423/in/photostream/
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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2011, 10:11:18 pm »
Pan American World Airways "Preview of Tomorrow's Flying Clippers" post card set showcasing the Convair Model 37.

"Stairway connects twin decks"
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23269353@N00/4980646403/in/photostream/

"Sound-proof interiors"
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23269353@N00/4980646379/in/photostream/
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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2011, 06:44:54 am »
In 1940/41 US funded Very Heavy Bombers (XB-29, Consolidated XB-32 Dominator, both deployed in Pacific; Martin XB-33A Super Marauder, chopped; Consolidated XB-36, deployed post-War) and gargantuan transports Lockheed L-89/XRO6-1; Boeing XC-97 Stratocruiser; XC-99/Model 37; Douglas 415A XC-74 Globemaster (to be Mk.I). The transports spawned civil schemes, despite pre-War carriers having difficulty selling 40 seats long haul. None, though, was funded with airline use in mind. This entire Heavy program was intended to permit US (neutral, remember, when they were all initiated) to carry the fight - warload, soldiers, Marines, freight - to Japan and/or Germany in the absence of bases in overrun China/Philippines, and/or neutralised UK/Iceland. By 1943 it could be assumed that case would not arise, so some schemes lapsed, C-97 and C-74 were scaled down, XC-99 and XRO6-1 dribbled vaguely.
 
If I were of a conspiratorial nature, disposed to blame Truman for the Cold War, I would wonder muchly why he persevered, after VJ Day but before the Berlin Airlift, with B-36 (and its greatly improved nukes) into production and deployment.

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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2011, 12:14:45 pm »
Video (without sound) from SDASM archives :
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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2011, 09:37:15 pm »
...Thanks for finding that clip, sir. Now downloaded and stored in my archives!

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« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2011, 03:33:12 am »
Thanks fightingirish; a pleasure to watch. This is my favourite aircraft, though challenged for top spot by Myasishchev M-50, Alekseyev KM, Antonov An-22, Sud-est SE-200, Tupolev ANT-26, Hughes HK-1 Hercules, & North American XB-70. Is there a way to copy this video clip to my computer? I have been under the impression one could not.

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« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2011, 12:05:24 pm »
Hi foiling !
There are a number of Youtube downloaders, but as I'm just downloading the video, I'll
upload it to my photobucket account, send you the url and you can download it then.
It takes a long time, before all mistakes are made ...

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« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2011, 10:29:49 pm »
Is there a way to copy this video clip to my computer? I have been under the impression one could not.

Most common software is Downloadhelper, which works on Firefox browsers.  Optimized for YouTube, Downloadhelper is free (as is Firefox) and couldn't be easier to use.

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« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2011, 03:16:42 am »
Thanks guys for the help & info - caring & sharing. It's a big part of what makes this site by far my favourite. (My second favourite is skyscraperpage.com. If you like buildings, check it out.)

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« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2011, 12:45:25 pm »
Imagine that in rough turbulence :-)

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« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2011, 04:40:27 pm »
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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2011, 08:56:06 pm »
Is there a way to copy this video clip to my computer? I have been under the impression one could not.

Most common software is Downloadhelper, which works on Firefox browsers.  Optimized for YouTube, Downloadhelper is free (as is Firefox) and couldn't be easier to use.

...Not to derail the thread, but I've found that YouTube Downloader actually performed better than Downloadhelper. Prior to release 3.x, I could set up as many as 20 separate streams downloading at the same time, with an average of 50kps DL rates for each stream, but on occasion I'll get what I call "traffic jams", where up to half the streams will just stop and/or drop down to a trickle until one or more streams finish downloading. I haven't seen this with 3.x, but it limits you to three streams without paying for the pro version, but setting up download queues is a lot easier and essentially lets me download a ton of clips without having to keep an eye on things. Either way, I always recommend to anyone finding clips of interest on YouTube that they download the clip instead of just bookmarking the link, because odds are the MafRIAA or the WiMPAAs will file a bogus DMCA notice on the clip and have it pulled down before you decide to click that bookmark again.  >:( >:( >:(

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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2011, 11:46:55 pm »
Or you could install Opera and opera flash downloader
https://addons.opera.com/en/addons/extensions/details/youtube-downloader-2/1.6.2/
You'll get one additional button on youtube and other sites (download) and you'll have the opportunity to choose the quality of the downloaded file.
Sorry for the offtopic comment.

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« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2011, 07:59:08 am »
In the Mac I use Videobox:

http://www.tastyapps.com/

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« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2012, 01:59:18 am »
From Popular Magazine, March 1950:

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« Reply #35 on: May 11, 2012, 04:09:16 pm »
A old picture of the projected civilian variant from an old split-up topic:

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Civil version of the c-99 ( B-36 based)

Source: B-36 in action by M.K. Jacobsen and Ray Wagner

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« Reply #36 on: June 28, 2012, 06:15:48 am »
Greetings All -

Interesting in-house Convair paper announcing Pan Am's order for the civilian version of the XC-99:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-WWII-Era-Consolidated-Aircraft-Employee-Newsletter-Convair-Clipper-/300732118532?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item460507f604

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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2012, 02:46:32 am »
The official USAF report on their evaluation of the giant Convair XC-99 transport prototype:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/USAF-TECHNICAL-REPORT-ON-XC-99-/290776248146?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43b39d6f52

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« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2012, 02:47:22 am »
More pics:

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« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2012, 07:46:33 am »
The pic:

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« Reply #42 on: September 09, 2013, 01:28:33 am »

Convair XC-99 Airliner Cutaway drawing at Sobchak's blog.
Link: http://sobchak.wordpress.com/2013/09/08/cutaway-convair-xc-99-airliner/


I'm at work, so I can't  click at the original source and am not allowed to attach the picture.
Original source: http://www.air-and-space.com/xc99.htm
If already posted here or in another topic, this post will be deleted.

EDIT: Cutaway attached from mentioned link
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« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2013, 10:58:32 am »
I've seen where Beryl A. Erickson was pilot on XC-99 first flight - also copilot - does anyone know exactly who was pilot and who was copilot? Thanks! -SP
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« Reply #44 on: December 21, 2013, 02:33:39 am »
This C-99 model is on display at the Fort Worth Aviation Museum in Fort Worth, Texas ( http://www.facmuseum.org/home1.aspx ). 

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« Reply #45 on: December 21, 2013, 03:58:50 pm »
Very nice pics showing the B-60-like canopy planned for the production model. Rather ugly if you ask me... but interesting! Thanks for sharing.

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« Reply #46 on: December 22, 2013, 04:33:49 am »
...Rather ugly if you ask me... but interesting! ...

Not ugly, just purposeful !   ;) Couldn't be mistaken for a converted airliner anymore.
And the flight deck wouldn't have impeded the cargo bay and nose doors. Additionally
probably the original B-36 flight deck could have been used, so easing production.
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« Reply #47 on: December 22, 2013, 06:05:19 am »
Convair XC-99 factory model (note stand is similar to C-99 model, posted above). The heat-reflective white paint over the flight deck was eventually added to the actual prototype as well.

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« Reply #48 on: December 23, 2013, 03:44:20 pm »
Convair XC-99 later in its career (tail number starts with "O-" for obsolete).

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« Reply #51 on: February 12, 2014, 02:50:19 pm »
Convair XC-99 landing at Lindbergh Field, San Diego, at the end of its first flight. Note the large, single-wheel main landing gears. Because of damage to runways, these were later replaced with 4-wheel bogies, identical to the B-36 arrangement.

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« Reply #52 on: February 12, 2014, 09:51:08 pm »
First B-36s had the large single wheel too. -SP
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« Reply #53 on: February 12, 2014, 10:37:33 pm »
... Because of damage to runways, these were later replaced with 4-wheel bogies, identical to the B-36 arrangement.

And IIRC, there was an accident, too, where the single wheel broke away (Think, I saw a photo in the Squadron Signal
issue about the B-36).
It takes a long time, before all mistakes are made ...

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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #54 on: August 25, 2014, 08:53:44 am »
'Scottish Airlines' liveried XC.99 ...
 
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...'excuse me mister, is that plane for real'...!!!

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« Reply #55 on: August 25, 2014, 09:09:08 am »
'Scottish Airlines' liveried XC.99 ...
 
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Very nice.

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« Reply #56 on: August 25, 2014, 10:43:07 am »
'Scottish Airlines' liveried XC.99 ...

Now THERE's something different! Thanks for sharing.  :)

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« Reply #57 on: November 23, 2014, 11:46:22 pm »
Would the Model 6 have been for commercial or military use? Were there any plans for increased cargo and/or passenger capacity relative to the C-99?

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« Reply #58 on: November 24, 2014, 01:39:55 am »
As we already had the jet powered versions already in this thread, I've merged
the "Convair Model 6" thread.

Would the Model 6 have been for commercial or military use? Were there any plans for increased cargo and/or passenger capacity relative to the C-99?

With regards to these drawings http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2079.msg17676.html#msg17676,
I think, the fuselage would have been more or less unaltered
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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #59 on: November 06, 2015, 04:23:52 am »
Hi,

here is the Convair Model-37.

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« Reply #60 on: February 16, 2018, 03:57:29 pm »
Design of the 204 passenger Consolidated Vultee aircraft. Full article: http://www.everythingpanam.com/History_1940s.html
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« Reply #61 on: February 17, 2018, 03:34:35 am »
Air and Space information on the Convair Model 37 project, civilian version of the XC-99.
http://www.air-and-space.com/xc99.htm

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« Reply #62 on: February 17, 2018, 04:02:41 am »
Model 37

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« Reply #63 on: February 17, 2018, 04:14:51 am »
Model 37 and XC-99 cutaways

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« Reply #64 on: February 17, 2018, 06:55:55 am »
Nice drawing my dear Dynoman.

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Re: Convair XC-99 and derivatives
« Reply #65 on: February 18, 2018, 03:33:43 am »
Topics merged

A summary of designations and dates for design start

Convair Model 36 bomber (1941): B-36

Convair Model 36 transport (1942): XC-99

Convair Model 37 transport (1942): XC-99

Convair Model 37 airliner (1945)

Source: Convair Advanced Designs by Robert E. Bradley

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« Reply #66 on: February 18, 2018, 03:56:13 am »
'Scottish Airlines' liveried XC.99 ...
 
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This one is interesting, although obviously a case of wishful thinking by McIntyre. Scottish Aviation had a good business relationship with Consolidated and were probably aware of the project but this artwork has odd errors in the shape of the wing and engine nacelles. I wonder if it was based on early Consolidated artwork or just a case of artist's memory failure?

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« Reply #67 on: February 19, 2018, 11:22:15 am »
I keep thinking of an alternate LAX of the 1950's with both Convair Model 37's and Lockheed Constitution's, in the markings of different airlines, boarding passengers.

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« Reply #71 on: March 21, 2018, 02:31:13 pm »
204 passengers.

What would have been the capacity if they used the seating density they use today.

IIRC, I did read the Brabazon could have seated 300.

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« Reply #72 on: January 09, 2019, 07:33:05 am »
From Decollage 1946.