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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35: News ONLY topic
« Reply #1365 on: June 12, 2018, 08:29:25 pm »
meh... just bring along some MQ-25s.
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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35: News ONLY topic
« Reply #1366 on: June 13, 2018, 05:51:25 am »
Sure, its fat and ugly. It was designed around weapons bays for bomb hauling rather than missile carrying. Sure, of course it does carry missiles, 4 of them, but that is rather light. The F-16 is a "fighter" that can carry bombs and is from the age of if it looks good then it flies good - and it looks good.

Wow, and here I thought I might get a serious reply.  ::)

The F-35 for a (single engine) "fighter" that has to carry internally has a fairly light/small payload for bombs and missiles. One or two bombs in the age of stealth to make the old days of 8-10 bombs on an old f-15 or f-16 seem like a luxury. Waiting for the F-35 "XL" that will be a really FAT cranked arrow F-35 for more fuel and bomb payload. Maybe in 15 years?
The f-35 in the picture should be stretched and "fatter."

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1. 8-10 bombs on an “old” F-16? In what remotely representative combat scenario? The F-35 matches up well to F-16s and F-15s and all other tactical fighter-bombers in this regard.

2. Ahem...... NEWS ONLY THREAD!

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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35: News ONLY topic
« Reply #1367 on: June 13, 2018, 12:29:49 pm »
P&W proposes electric power boost from F-35 engine

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Pratt & Whitney has added power and thermal management upgrades to a list of options available now for the propulsion system for the Lockheed Martin F-35.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/pw-proposes-electric-power-boost-from-f-35-engine-449423/

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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35: News ONLY topic
« Reply #1368 on: June 14, 2018, 03:07:26 am »
Just found this interesting article on the alleged plot by China to steal information about the F-35 by a former Rolls-Royce engineer.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/14/former-rolls-royce-engineer-arrested-officials-secrets-act-amid/

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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35: News ONLY topic
« Reply #1369 on: June 14, 2018, 06:52:02 am »
P&W proposes electric power boost from F-35 engine

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Pratt & Whitney has added power and thermal management upgrades to a list of options available now for the propulsion system for the Lockheed Martin F-35.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/pw-proposes-electric-power-boost-from-f-35-engine-449423/

Pratt & Whitney Forms Unit to Develop Military Engines Quickly, Cheaply

NEW YORK—Pratt & Whitney President Robert Leduc told reporters here Tuesday his company is ideally placed to take advantage of increases in planned US defense spending. The head of the aviation engine manufacturer made his comments to a group of aviation reporters the company brought to its Brooklyn headquarters as it announced the formation of a unit aimed at developing military aircraft engines more quickly and cheaper than conventional procurement efforts. Pointing to proposed defense increases for programs such as the Joint Strike Fighter, KC-46 tanker, and B-21 bomber, he said Pratt & Whitney is “on the right platforms.” The Joint Strike Fighter, he said, is the “No. 1 DOD priority,” while the tanker also has “high priority” and the bomber is “a strategic need.” “There is no doubt,” he said, “that we placed our bets in the right place.” Meanwhile, the company said it was setting up “GatorWorks,” a prototyping arm concentrating on quick development of dependable military engines at lower cost. The aim, the company said, is to cut the lead time and cost for engines compared to conventional procurement cycles. —Steve Hirsch
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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35: News ONLY topic
« Reply #1370 on: June 19, 2018, 06:25:47 am »
http://aviationweek.com/defense/directed-energy-capability-targeted-pratt-f-35-engine-upgrade-plan?NL=AW-05&Issue=AW-05_20180619_AW-05_576&sfvc4enews=42&cl=article_2&utm_rid=CPEN1000000230026&utm_campaign=15273&utm_medium=email&elq2=58a391b63c4a435cbf73c76fc1f4f794

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Pratt & Whitney is refining its proposed upgrade path for the F135 Joint Strike Fighter engine to include increased power and thermal management (PTMS) capability following feedback on its initially proposed upgrade package from the F-35 Joint Program Office.

Additional power and thermal management capability will enable the use of directed-energy weapons and other advanced offensive and defensive systems and, if approved, would feature in an upgrade package called Growth Option 2.0 (GO2).  Pratt & Whitney, which would roll PTMS into a suite of compressor and turbine enhancements originally proposed in the first upgrade package, G01, says the complete upgrade could be available within four years of getting the official go-ahead.

Growth Option 1.0, which was floated with the JPO in 2017, offered 5% fuel reductions and as much as 10% higher thrust. Offered as a cost neutral upgrade, it was always meant to form part of a longer term, two-stage improvement road map for the F-35 engine under plans first unveiled by the manufacturer in 2015. However, with the move to combine GO1 and 2 into a more complete enhancement package, Pratt is tailoring the revised proposal to closer match the F-35 upgrade road map recently outlined under the C2D2 continuous improvement strategy.
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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35: News ONLY topic
« Reply #1371 on: June 19, 2018, 04:29:22 pm »
Don't get focused on the magician's cape and wand. Don't get distracted by his assistant in the fishnet stockings.

Keep your eye on the bunny rabbit. The thermal bunny rabbit.

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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35: News ONLY topic
« Reply #1372 on: June 19, 2018, 05:28:05 pm »
Oh c'mon...

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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35: News ONLY topic
« Reply #1373 on: June 20, 2018, 12:32:53 pm »
US lawmakers intensify efforts to block F-35 delivery to Turkey

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Moves by the US Senate and members of the House of Representatives to block the delivery of the Lockheed Martin F-35 to Turkey have intensified, increasing tensions with Ankara.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/us-lawmakers-intensify-efforts-to-block-f-35-deliver-449580/

UK undecided on F-35 DAS upgrade

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The United Kingdom has yet to decide if it will upgrade its Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter (JAF) combat aircraft with the new Distributed Aperture System (DAS) announced earlier in the month.

Answering questions in the House of Commons, Guto Bebb, Minister for Defence Procurement, said that a decision on whether or not to swap the current Northrop Grumman AN/AAQ-37 DAS with a new system to be developed by Raytheon will be made “once [the government] understand the time and cost implications”.

http://www.janes.com/article/81196/uk-undecided-on-f-35-das-upgrade
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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35: News ONLY topic
« Reply #1374 on: June 20, 2018, 12:57:12 pm »
The Senate  does not just want to block delivery, they want Turkey out of the program.  I could not find any basis in the JSF MoU for forcing a partner out of the program.

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EC. 1269. REMOVAL OF TURKEY FROM THE F–35 PROGRAM.

(a) Findings.—Congress makes the following findings:

(1) The Government of the Republic of Turkey continues to unlawfully and wrongfully detain Andrew Brunson, a United States citizen, and continues to deny Mr. Brunson due process rights consistent with international norms.

(2) The Government of the Republic of Turkey has wrongly charged Andrew Brunson with belonging to a terrorist organization and engaging in terrorist activities.

(3) The Government of the Republic of Turkey, including the senior leadership of the government, bears direct responsibility for the health and safety of Andrew Brunson while he remains in the custody of the Government of the Republic of Turkey.

(4) Congress will not tolerate any foreign government’s efforts to use United States citizens for political leverage.

(5) President Erdogan, along with other senior officials of the Government of the Republic of Turkey, have publicly and repeatedly stated the intention of the Government of the Republic of Turkey to purchase the S–400 system from Russia, an act that is sanctionable under current United States law.

(6) Any effort by the Government of the Republic of Turkey to further enhance their relationship with Russia will degrade the general security of the NATO alliance, and NATO member countries, and degrade interoperability of the alliance.

(b) Report.—The Secretary of Defense shall submit to the appropriate congressional committees a plan to remove the Government of the Republic of Turkey from participation in the F–35 program, to include industrial and military aspects of the program. The plan shall include:

(1) steps required to unwind industrial participation of Turkish industry in the manufacturing and assembly of the F–35 program;

(2) costs associated with replacing tooling and other manufacturing materials held by Turkish industry;

(3) timelines associated with the removal of the Government of the Republic of Turkey and Turkish industry from participation in the F–35 program, so as to cause the least impact on the remaining international program partners; and

(4) steps required to prohibit the transfer of any F–35 aircraft currently owned and operated, by the Government of the Republic of Turkey, from the territory of the United States.

(c) Limitation On The Transfer Of The F–35 To Turkey.—The Department of Defense may not transfer the title for any F–35 aircraft to the Government of the Republic of Turkey, until such time as the report identified in subsection (b) has been submitted.

(d) Appropriate Congressional Committees Defined.—In this section, the term “appropriate congressional committees” means—

(1) the congressional defense committees; and

(2) the Committee on Foreign Relations of the Senate and the Committee on Foreign Affairs of the House of Representatives.
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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35: News ONLY topic
« Reply #1375 on: June 22, 2018, 10:48:30 am »
Probably have to buy them out unwillingly.I

Then offer their share of the program to Germany/France for the same dollars. I'm sure an existing partner or two would be willing to expand their workshare if that doesn't go anywhere.

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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35: News ONLY topic
« Reply #1376 on: June 22, 2018, 04:12:35 pm »
German and France never buy F-35 .

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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35: News ONLY topic
« Reply #1377 on: June 22, 2018, 08:57:51 pm »
But they might buy the workload for the experience.

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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35: News ONLY topic
« Reply #1378 on: June 23, 2018, 03:36:47 am »
Belgium?

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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35: News ONLY topic
« Reply #1379 on: June 23, 2018, 06:56:59 am »
But they might buy the workload for the experience.

Given that the F-35 is designed on Catia V5 and has drawn on quite a bit of Dassault's robotics technology, I question how badly they want that experience.