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Re: Hawker P.1121 "Hurricane"
« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2009, 02:29:35 am »
I can only say...Camm was right.

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Re: Hawker P.1121 "Hurricane"
« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2009, 02:02:00 am »
The P.1121 desk model from Brooklands. This is a real photo of the model, but I removed the background.
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Re: Hawker P.1121 "Hurricane"
« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2009, 02:38:04 pm »
A great opportunity lost. Wouldn't the P.1121  have been a British equivalent of the F-105 Thunderchief ?

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Re: Hawker P.1121 "Hurricane"
« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2009, 03:57:58 pm »
More like midway between an F4 and a F104.

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Re: Hawker P.1121 "Hurricane"
« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2009, 09:20:32 pm »
I think the Thunderchief analogy has some merit actually.
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Re: Hawker P.1121 "Hurricane"
« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2009, 05:11:09 am »
Well in some respects clearly so, since they both use a single large jet engine. Though the P1121 lacks a fully internal weapons bay.

Though the late offering with a blown wing should be less of a runway hog than the Thunderchief.

And presumably comparable to the F8UIII and what was the other one called with the overhead inlet?

I would suspect cheaper to run than an F4 and safer than a F104.
What it lacks of course is the radar missile combination, as any early order would only see the AI23 and Firestreak or later Red Top.

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Re: Hawker P.1121 "Hurricane"
« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2009, 06:48:21 am »
The nose has room for a larger more effective radars. Whether or not the British government would have gone for the upgrade is a different matter.
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Re: Hawker P.1121 "Hurricane"
« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2009, 10:42:14 am »
And presumably comparable to the F8UIII and what was the other one called with the overhead inlet?

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Re: Hawker P.1121 "Hurricane"
« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2009, 12:29:09 pm »
From "The Fifteen Nations" No 11 September 1959.  R.B. Marsh, Head of Project Office, Humber? Aircraft Ltd.

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Re: Hawker P.1121 "Hurricane"
« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2009, 10:37:32 pm »
That's great, thanks for that. That's the P.1103 model in the background. Bob Marsh was an interesting character. When Vivien Stansbury left Hawker to design cars, he inherited management of the project office by default rather than merit (IMHO).
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Re: Hawker P.1121 "Hurricane"
« Reply #40 on: May 08, 2009, 09:56:32 am »
Here's a nice pic of the P.1121 front fuselage in the Structures Hangar at Cranfield
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 Where is it now Scrapped??

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Re: Hawker P.1121 "Hurricane"
« Reply #41 on: May 08, 2009, 04:41:31 pm »
Stored at Cosford... I tried to get to see it some years back but was knocked back because of security considerations in the wake of 9/11... strange as as I got onto the Typhoon line at Warton a couple of years later with no problems...

Just wish they'd display the bird.. or what's left of it as Im pretty sure there's lots of people who'd love to see it... even if it was just rolled it out for the airshow one year...!

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Re: Hawker P.1121 "Hurricane"
« Reply #42 on: May 08, 2009, 11:53:15 pm »
I was told I could not photograph it because the storage hangar is unsafe for public access.
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Re: Hawker P.1121 "Hurricane"
« Reply #43 on: May 10, 2009, 06:22:20 am »
I think i have said before that it would make a fantastic display, especially if it was displayed with the proposed power plant (a Gyron?)

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Re: Hawker P.1121 "Hurricane"
« Reply #44 on: May 10, 2009, 06:57:24 am »
I think i have said before that it would make a fantastic display, especially if it was displayed with the proposed power plant (a Gyron?)
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I agree , are there still any big de Havilland Gyrons? maybe the alternative  Olympus?