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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2012, 03:41:06 pm »
Artist's impression of Lockheed Martin Sea Ghost concept for the United States Navy UCLASS (Unmanned Carrier Launched Surveillance and Strike) program.

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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2013, 06:08:14 am »
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnogreenert/7744455280/sizes/o/in/photostream/

That's quite some stretch the Predator C Avenger got going on.

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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2013, 06:27:44 am »
http://defensetech.org/2013/03/27/navy-plans-to-fund-four-in-uclass-development/
 
So if I read this right there will be four separate aircraft? I have not seen four separate designs so is a fourth under development that we have not seen yet?
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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2013, 06:44:19 am »
Boeing (new design), NG (X-47B), GA (Predator-C "Avenger"), Lockheed Martin Sea Ghost above.
 
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http://defensetech.org/2012/04/16/16952/
 
I wouldn't think the Predator-C would really be in the same class as the others though. 
 
 
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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2013, 07:33:48 am »
The encouraging thing about including Pred-C is that it gives you a clearer sense of the trade space -- it probably isn't as high performing as the others, but it also probably costs a bunch less.  That helps you see how much the last increment of stealth or speed will cost, which is the exact sort of question the Navy has not done well at exploring in the past.

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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2013, 08:47:49 am »
The encouraging thing about including Pred-C is that it gives you a clearer sense of the trade space -- it probably isn't as high performing as the others, but it also probably costs a bunch less.  That helps you see how much the last increment of stealth or speed will cost, which is the exact sort of question the Navy has not done well at exploring in the past.

And payload.  Predator-C's is only about 3500lbs.
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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2013, 09:18:02 pm »
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnogreenert/7744455280/sizes/o/in/photostream/

That's quite some stretch the Predator C Avenger got going on.

What do you mean?   ???
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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2013, 10:33:45 pm »
What do you mean?   ???
He meant that it's the b version (2nd avenger), which has a longer fuselage from the a version (first one). 

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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2013, 10:44:34 pm »
Interesting.  I did not know that.  Here:
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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2013, 08:08:54 am »
Skunk Works UCLASS video:
 
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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2013, 08:45:22 am »
Notice the conformal pod under the fuselage for reconnaissance and targeting sensors.
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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2013, 11:42:54 am »
Will the UCLASS be flown from workstations aboard the aircraft carrier or from workstations located on naval bases perhaps located in the United States?

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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2013, 12:26:20 pm »
It sounds like both.  From the BAA:
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The UCLASS system will be jointly interoperable at Levels 1-4 in accordance with STANAG 4586 and capable of transferring control of the aircraft, sensors, and weapons between operators at DoD sea and land-based facilities.

Now, whether the sea-based operators would just be doing launch and recovery isn't clear.  It sounds to me like they want the sea-based operators to have the option of running the whole mission (references to interoperability with CVW assets, JFMCC tasking, etc.).

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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2013, 03:07:10 pm »
Is it just me or do others get a tingle when the voiceover guy says, "Systems we cannot talk about" although of course I want to know what they aren't talking about.
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