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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #1111 on: August 03, 2018, 03:39:15 pm »
Don't know where to put this but here it is

https://www.facebook.com/NATO/videos/1904319269591395/

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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #1112 on: August 04, 2018, 10:05:16 am »
The same video at YouTube:

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Making aircraft less detectable
A team of NATO experts is developing new technology that will make military aircraft less detectable. Most forms of aircraft need actuators (vertical and horizontal flaps) to enable flight and control.
The technology being developed leaves these flaps redundant in certain phases of flight, replacing them with an active flow control system using air to help manoeuvre the aircraft.
The research into innovative control effectors, or ICE, is being carried out by a NATO task group under NATO’s Science and Technology Organization, which includes representatives from the US Air Force Office of Scientific Research, the US Air Force Academy in Colorado, the Illinois Institute of Technology and Lockheed Martin.
The first model of the ICE aircraft was made in 2015, measuring just 28 centimetres in wingspan. It has since undergone numerous rounds of testing in a wind tunnel at the US Air Force Academy in Colorado.
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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #1113 on: August 04, 2018, 10:47:54 am »
Aaahhhhh.... ICE blowing dust in the vaccum to try altering the attitude... I wonder why this looks like familiar to me. ;)

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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #1114 on: August 15, 2018, 05:15:43 am »
Don't think this has been posted - Lockheed MQ-25 model with F-35.
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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #1115 on: August 15, 2018, 06:08:04 am »
Seems smaller than the Boeing and GA offerings.  Or maybe that's just an artifact of the flying wing configuration compared to the more conventional shapes of the other designs.

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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #1116 on: August 15, 2018, 07:16:14 am »
Don't think this has been posted - Lockheed MQ-25 model with F-35.

from inner to outter, airbreak, flap, aileron, rudder, spoiler?

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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #1117 on: August 15, 2018, 04:49:12 pm »
IIRC, it is indeed smaller - the flying wing allowed greater efficiency, meaning that it would end up with a greater portion of fuel available once it was on station, meaning that it could be small and lighter overall with a less powerful and thirsty engine.
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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #1118 on: August 15, 2018, 05:05:17 pm »
notice also the wider chord, resulting in less induced drag hence less turbulences for the aircraft in trail (the very one reason why the A-400 struggles to be a good air tanker). This is one of the strong point of the LM design.

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« Reply #1119 on: August 30, 2018, 02:50:10 pm »
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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #1120 on: August 30, 2018, 03:06:58 pm »
https://dod.defense.gov/News/Contracts/Contract-View/Article/1617374/

So apparently Boeing has won the contract...

Wow, preety fast decision compared to other delayed delayed business.

Is it affect decision of T-X or too small to affect other selection?

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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #1121 on: August 30, 2018, 04:09:07 pm »
https://dod.defense.gov/News/Contracts/Contract-View/Article/1617374/

So apparently Boeing has won the contract...

I'm surprised it wasn't announced somewhere.  ???

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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #1122 on: August 30, 2018, 05:02:44 pm »
https://dod.defense.gov/News/Contracts/Contract-View/Article/1617374/

So apparently Boeing has won the contract...

Wow, preety fast decision compared to other delayed delayed business.

Is it affect decision of T-X or too small to affect other selection?

My money is on LM winning T-X.
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Re: US Navy’s UCLASS / CBARS / MQ-XX / MQ-25 Stingray Program
« Reply #1124 on: August 31, 2018, 05:50:21 am »
https://dod.defense.gov/News/Contracts/Contract-View/Article/1617374/

So apparently Boeing has won the contract...

I'm surprised it wasn't announced somewhere.  ???


It's such a small acquisition, really.  Just four airframes. 

Which is why I doubt it will have a lot of impact on the T-X decision.