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Hughes Model 77 AAH competition winner (became the AH-64)
« on: August 20, 2006, 10:18:10 am »
Another interesting Hughes AAH picture - in packed form. Original specifications also called for using of ejector seats and carrying additional antitank missiles internaly, so the helicopter should be re-armed during short landing. Mi-24 crews do it sometimes.
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Re: Hughes Model 77 AAH competition winner (became the AH-64)
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2006, 05:38:56 am »
Early Hughes Model 77 sketch.

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Frank Colucci, The McDonnell-Douglas Apache Aero Series 33 1988
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Re: Hughes Model 77 AAH competition winner (became the AH-64)
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2006, 03:13:24 am »
3) prototype of AH-64, including T tail and converse T tail.
Still remain T tail and ⊥ tail prototype of YAH-64.
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Re: Hughes Model 77 AAH competition winner (became the AH-64)
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2006, 12:45:53 pm »
T-tail prototype. I dont know what you mean by "converse T tail"

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Re: Hughes Model 77 AAH competition winner (became the AH-64)
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2006, 07:32:01 am »
Well, I mean I want some pix of YAH-64 that tailplane not on the top of tail whereas on the buttom of tail. Showing like"⊥".
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Re: Hughes Model 77 AAH competition winner (became the AH-64)
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2006, 12:55:31 am »
The fixed low-tail YAH-64 never flew. The first  prototype was so fitted but after some wind-tunnel tests the low fixed horizontal stabilator was found unsuited and was immediately changed in a high fixed one. So, the only way to see it on the prototype is to find a picture of the roll-out. In 20 years I've seen none :(

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Re: Hughes Model 77 AAH competition winner (became the AH-64)
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2006, 07:45:47 pm »
No, it looks you are wrong, except this is a fake
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Re: Hughes Model 77 AAH competition winner (became the AH-64)
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2006, 02:31:09 am »
Congratulations, you're proving Frank Colucci "Apache" Aero Series 33 by Aero Publishing pg.  19 and 20, wrong  !!!  ;)
Which is the prototype pictured, AV02 or AV03 ? To me the number on the side of the cockpit read O2.
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Re: Hughes Model 77 AAH competition winner (became the AH-64)
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2009, 01:16:49 pm »
Image of Hughes Model 77 mockup published in Apache AH-64 Boeing (McDonnell Douglas) 1976-2005 by Chris Bishop, Osprey Publishing Ltd, 2005.

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Re: Hughes Model 77 AAH competition winner (became the AH-64)
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2010, 08:13:21 pm »
Another interesting Hughes AAH picture - in packed form. Original specifications also called for using of ejector seats and carrying additional antitank missiles internaly, so the helicopter should be re-armed during short landing. Mi-24 crews do it sometimes.

I found this photo in Scale Models magazine, January 1974.
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Re: Hughes Model 77 AAH competition winner (became the AH-64)
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2010, 05:26:42 pm »
Artist's impression and full-size mock-up of Hughes Model 77.

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http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/lofiversion/index.php?t202161.html

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Re: Hughes Model 77 AAH competition winner (became the AH-64)
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2012, 03:09:19 am »
Hughes AAH Mockup

Source: Army Aviation Digest April 1975

http://www.rucker.army.mil/avjournal/1970/1975/AVN_DIG_1975_04.pdf
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Re: Hughes Model 77 AAH competition winner (became the AH-64)
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2012, 07:54:46 am »
wow, that whole magazine issue is a treasure trove!
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Re: Hughes Model 77 AAH competition winner (became the AH-64)
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2012, 07:56:26 am »
wow, that whole magazine issue is a treasure trove!

Yeah, and in fact if you can take the time to download the whole collection (which obviously will take quite a while) you'll find a lot of interesting stuff.

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Hughes Advanced Attack Helicopter (AAH) concept poster
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2014, 12:53:55 pm »
Poster of Hughes Advanced Attack Helicopter (AAH) concept that became the YAH-64/AH-64 Apache found on eBay. Measurements are approximate at 18.25" x 23".

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1950s-60s-Original-Poster-HUGHES-ATTACK-HELICOPTER-US-ARMY-Military-/141442537600?pt=Art_Posters&hash=item20eea1d880

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Re: Hughes Model 77 AAH competition winner (became the AH-64)
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2019, 06:35:05 am »
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Re: Hughes Model 77 AAH competition winner (became the AH-64)
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2019, 08:07:11 pm »
Another interesting Hughes AAH picture - in packed form. Original specifications also called for using of ejector seats and carrying additional antitank missiles internaly, so the helicopter should be re-armed during short landing. Mi-24 crews do it sometimes.

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carrying additional antitank missiles internaly
, if you have anything more on the subject Matej 😯 :P Do we know how many additional missiles it was intended to carry and where within the helicopter they were carried - internally? externally?.......

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Re: Hughes Model 77 AAH competition winner (became the AH-64)
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2019, 08:11:15 pm »
Would be interesting to know how much weight growth has occurred between the original Hughes Model 77 prototype, to that of the production / operational standard AH-64A, if anyone has these figures!👍


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Faithfulness and fortitude.
Gentleness and compassion.
I am honored to be your brother.”

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