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Vought V-1100 fighter to LWF specification
« on: January 02, 2006, 09:06:05 am »
The V-1100 project was a further modification of the V-1000, which in turn was an improved F-8 Crusader. It had an enlarged rear fuselage for an F100 engine and a modified wing for greater manouvreability. The forward fuselage was also redesigned, primarily to improve the rear view from the cockpit.

V-1100 was submitted to the LWF program which resulted in the YF-16 and YF-17, but was rejected. Vought placed second-to-last, ahead of Lockheed.

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Re: Vought V-1100 fighter to LWF specification
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2006, 11:59:20 pm »
What with the F-8 Crusader’s reputation as the last true gun dogfighter (up until the USAF LWF / ACF program winner – F-16), I would say that with the thrust offered by the F100 turbofan engine, and its new wing and cockpit arrangement, the V-1100 could have been a very capable and effective fighter in its own right.

It’s a pity that there is not too much more information on this LTV design!


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Re: Vought V-1100 fighter to LWF specification
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2006, 12:10:03 am »
there's pictures of the mockup of the V-1100 on this forum. You might be surprise seeing it, cause the plane really look like...a F-16!
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Re: Vought V-1100 fighter to LWF specification
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2006, 02:12:14 am »
there's pictures of the mockup of the V-1100 on this forum. You might be surprise seeing it, cause the plane really look like...a F-16!

Thats something new for me. Where?

And regarding to V-1100, its good that USAF pressed more on development potencial than on fast reliability and less development risk. Can you imagine F-8 Block 1860 currently in service instead of F-16E/F?  :D

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Re: Vought V-1100 fighter to LWF specification
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2006, 04:45:59 am »
Sorry Archibald but what pictures of the Mock-up V-1100 ???

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Re: Vought V-1100 fighter to LWF specification
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2008, 07:23:44 am »
Greetings All -

Nothing like resurrecting an old thread!  Last week I spent a few fruitful days in the Vought Archives and came away with a lot of new info - will post most of it over the next few months.  One of the photos I scanned is a later variant of the V-1100 that appears much like Overscan's drawing but you'll note the installation of small "moustache" strakes forward of the wing itself.  No luck in finding any line drawings :-(

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Re: Vought V-1100 fighter to LWF specification
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2008, 08:38:28 am »
wows! those moustache are sexy!
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Re: Vought V-1100 fighter to LWF specification
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2008, 04:46:41 pm »
Fascinating!  I learn something new in this forum everyday, thank you. :)

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Re: Vought V-1100 fighter to LWF specification
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2008, 07:00:13 pm »
A rather poor set of V-1100 drawings from http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/planes/q0236.shtml

I tried to clean them up a bit but, alas, the dimensions are still unreadable. I wonder, did the V-1100's canopy open forward (MiG-21 style) as it did on the V-1600/1601?
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Re: Vought V-1100 fighter to LWF specification
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2008, 08:27:04 am »
Nice picture, Mark!  From the original sketch to me it looked more like a Crusader but from that angle its looking more F-16 with the LERX and wing.  This makes the whole "three second place finishers but Northrop chosen" story seem more congruent since both the Boeing and LTV entry were similar, with GD's being the most evolved of that type.

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Re: Vought V-1100 fighter to LWF specification
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2008, 03:39:00 am »
Its been a while - but do you have a pic or link of this Mock-up V-1100 Archibald????
The suspense has been killing me!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Vought V-1100 fighter to LWF specification
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2008, 06:20:47 am »
... and another image of the V-1100 LWF from the Vought Archives.

Can't help but think F-8 marries F-16 and the results are....

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Re: Vought V-1100 fighter to LWF specification
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2008, 08:44:29 am »
The head-on artist's drawing looks like the V-1100 may have had DSI. If so, would that be the first application of DSI?  Boeing's ATF proposal looks as though it may have had DSI?
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Re: Vought V-1100 fighter to LWF specification
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2008, 10:16:15 am »
Grumman tested DSI on an F11F back in the late '50s timeframe. 

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Re: Vought V-1100 fighter to LWF specification
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2013, 03:08:31 pm »
These drawings posted in the V-523 topic (http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,15929.msg80547.html#msg80547) appear to depict the V-1100 which it evolved from. Single piece canopy and ranging radar only.





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