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CAC Postwar Projects
« on: February 13, 2007, 09:36:18 pm »


About 10 years ago Air Enthusiast published an article on CAC projects. One was, if memory serves, the XP 65 Warrior, a stainless steel supersonic fighter bomber. AE reproduced a small scale picture but very little information. Does anyone have further information or pictures on Commonwealth supersonic projects?

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Re: CAC Postwar Projects
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2007, 09:09:36 am »
Hi,

I don't know the project XP-65,but I have a picture of CAC-31
mock-up from my dear Jon.
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Re: CAC Postwar Projects
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2007, 09:14:00 am »
I only have the AE article, no more info available :'(

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Re: CAC Postwar Projects
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2007, 02:15:27 am »
I have the articles you were referring to.  The XP-65 was to be powered by a RA24R Avon series engine.  Span was 7.3m, length was 14.3m.

Here are some pics from them.  First the XP-65:




And the related XP-68 - this was also to be built of stainless steel.  It was to be powered by a RR Avon RA19R.  It also had provision for a search radar.  Armament was 2 30mm cannon + 1 missile on each wingtip + another semi-recessed under the fuselage.  It was to be Mach 2 capable and was largely seen as a competitor to the F-104



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Re: CAC Postwar Projects
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2007, 12:10:03 pm »
Hi GTX,

probably the XP-65 and -68 weren't  "absolute stealth" designs ?    ;)
But I know those technical problems, just today I could make my
scanner work again :
Here the mentioned pictures of the AA-107 and another view of the
Ca-31 mock-up :


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Re: CAC Postwar Projects
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2007, 02:15:13 am »
Hi all,

any informationīs for the projects CA.21; CA.23 and CA.24 ?

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Re: CAC Postwar Projects
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2007, 03:23:20 am »
Hi Maveric,

For the CA.23 see in designation system,  http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1213.0.html
and for CA.21 it was a furhter 250 Mustangs,but was cancelled.
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Re: CAC Postwar Projects
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2007, 11:38:42 am »
Some more Pics of the CA.23 (including mock-up pics):






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Greg

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Re: CAC Postwar Projects
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2007, 12:01:36 pm »
Other interceptor proposals from CAC included:

The XP-46 - this was to be powered by an afterburning Avon RA-7R and was hoped to achieve 750 kts at 45000 ft.  it was to be armed with two 30mmm cannon:


This was followed by a Rocket (probably using similar motors to the Bell X-1) powered interceptor, the XP-47.  It was to be armed with six 3inch Oerlikon or Mighty Mouse type rockets:


Finally, there was the XP-62.  This was to be a four-engined light(?) interceptor poweed by for RR RB93 Soar jets with a thrust to weight ratio of 6.77:1.  Given the life of this engine at Mach 1+, it was expected that an engine change would be required after every 4 to 5 missions!  It was also planned to be armed with rockets:


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Greg
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Re: CAC Postwar Projects
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2007, 12:20:20 pm »
The designation CA-24 was reserved for a proposed licence version of the Hawker P-1080.

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Re: CAC Postwar Projects
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2007, 12:19:07 am »
Sorry GTX, I just had to follow my own signature ...
Some browsers ( e.g. Firefox) are blocking hotlinked attachements without warning !   ::)
Ok, now I can see your photos.
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Re: CAC Postwar Projects
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2007, 04:23:09 am »
I'm fond the XP-65 / 68 , CA-23 and CA-31 designs. I've made a model of the XP-68 some months ago...
Is there any model of the CA-23 on the market ?
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Re: CAC Postwar Projects
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2007, 04:29:28 am »
Maybe this sounds stupid but...

this variant of the CA.31 seems quite different from Uncle lee's resin model of the CA.31.
http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/portland/971/Reviews/raaf/ca-31.htm

The AE article tells that there was various iterations of the CA-31 (single seat for cas, 1 RB-172 or two J-85).

What variant did the mockup represented? the two J-85 or the single RB-172 variant ?
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Re: CAC Postwar Projects
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2007, 11:54:31 am »
Archibald,

What happenned with that pic - its a BGV International ship concept???

BTW, There was a pic of a superb model of the CA.23 that someone did last year (I think it was on Modelling Maddness and was from a Melbourne show) - I believe it may have been a scratch build though.

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Greg
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Re: CAC Postwar Projects
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2007, 03:39:44 pm »
Here is an odd looking little trainer concept from CAC. From Australian Aircraft Magazine.