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Offline Motocar

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Re: Vought two-seat F-8 for the UK
« Reply #45 on: April 14, 2018, 02:25:45 pm »
Next especulative modified cutaway drawing....!

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Re: Vought two-seat F-8 for the UK
« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2018, 03:57:42 am »
That is something to look forward to.

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Re: Vought two-seat F-8 for the UK
« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2018, 01:11:58 pm »
'Flying Review International', 19/2, October 1963


I find it interesting that the article emphasises –
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The Royal Navy has been considering a Rolls Royce-powered version of the Chance Vought F-8 Crusader as an interim replacement for existing interceptor equipment pending availability of the P. 1154


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And remember…remember the glory is not the exhortation of war, but the exhortation of man.
Mans nobility, made transcendent in the fiery crucible of war.
Faithfulness and fortitude.
Gentleness and compassion.
I am honored to be your brother.”

— Lt Col Ralph Honner DSO M

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Re: Vought two-seat F-8 for the UK
« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2018, 01:27:25 pm »
I love the F-8 as much as the next guy, but the idea of a heavier, more powerful version on a smallish carrier gives me the willies.

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Re: Vought two-seat F-8 for the UK
« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2018, 08:04:33 pm »
I love the F-8 as much as the next guy, but the idea of a heavier, more powerful version on a smallish carrier gives me the willies.

A-3s were operating off of Essex carriers.

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Re: Vought two-seat F-8 for the UK
« Reply #50 on: April 16, 2018, 12:46:24 am »
But they were not supersonic. The Whale was a gentle fat fellow of aircraft. The Crusader was quite tricky to land. Recently wrapped my mind around losses of the French ones. Well... 42 bought, 26 crashed.  :o
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Re: Vought two-seat F-8 for the UK
« Reply #51 on: April 16, 2018, 05:01:30 am »
But they were not supersonic. The Whale was a gentle fat fellow of aircraft. The Crusader was quite tricky to land. Recently wrapped my mind around losses of the French ones. Well... 42 bought, 26 crashed.  :o
Over how long a time?

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Re: Vought two-seat F-8 for the UK
« Reply #52 on: April 16, 2018, 08:21:00 am »
35 years, 1964 - 1999. and nearly half of the pilots involved in this crashed, died.  :(
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Re: Vought two-seat F-8 for the UK
« Reply #53 on: April 16, 2018, 01:07:55 pm »
One even managed to get under a carrier with it , then back on it alive (without the cruze though...)
http://aviateurs.e-monsite.com/pages/1946-et-annees-suivantes/sous-un-porte-avions-et-vivant.html

(sorry french text, but goooogle translate should be ok)

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Re: Vought two-seat F-8 for the UK
« Reply #54 on: April 16, 2018, 11:17:38 pm »
Bordel ! Never heard about this story before. It is just complete MADNESS.  :o
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Re: Vought two-seat F-8 for the UK
« Reply #55 on: April 23, 2018, 05:34:36 am »
The specultive cutaway drawing Vought XF8U-1T/ F8U-1T/ TF-8A, author Aviagraphica and retouched by Motocar

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Re: Vought two-seat F-8 for the UK
« Reply #56 on: June 01, 2018, 03:54:02 am »
Question regarding this. I've contacted an artist to make a sideview of this variant in RN livery, wih a few variations in equipment, but would the RN version have had two or four 20 mm cannons? The trainer version deleted the left-hand cannons to make room for displaced avionics, but all the art for this projects seems to indicate that the RN plane would have had four 20 mm cannons.

Can anyone shed light on this?

Also, my google-fu in this isn't very good. How much larger in diameter would both intake and exhaust have been for the Spey engine?

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Re: Vought two-seat F-8 for the UK
« Reply #57 on: June 01, 2018, 11:25:47 am »
How serious was the proposal?

Because the RN and RAF had move away from 20cm years earlier to the 30mm.
So it's questionable why they'd run seperate ammo supply just to avoid fitting the F8 with 30mm ADEN cannon.

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Re: Vought two-seat F-8 for the UK
« Reply #58 on: June 01, 2018, 12:30:23 pm »
I've contacted an artist to make a sideview of this variant in RN livery

Here are some for you:

Initial:



Low Viz:



In RAF scheme:


I have a bunch of others too if you want them - just let me know.

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Re: Vought two-seat F-8 for the UK
« Reply #59 on: June 01, 2018, 04:55:28 pm »
These are great, thanks for sharing them with us!