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Offline Deino

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JH-XX ... China's stealthy fighter-bomber unveiled !
« on: June 08, 2011, 09:25:54 am »
I have to admit !!!

The JHX was expected - maybe not that soon ... but anyway, but now  :o !!!!! 
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Re: JH-XX ... China's stealthy fighter-bomber unveiled !
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2011, 09:34:34 am »
I think it needs some more unveiling, currently insufficiently unveiled. ;)
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Re: JH-XX ... China's stealthy fighter-bomber unveiled !
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2011, 09:39:09 am »
I think it needs some more unveiling, currently insufficiently unveiled. ;)

Agreed ... but at least I don't think this is a PS-Fake !
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Re: JH-XX ... China's stealthy fighter-bomber unveiled !
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2011, 09:41:52 am »
The Chinese decided the SPF J-20 thread had run its course and an exciting new thread was needed....

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Re: JH-XX ... China's stealthy fighter-bomber unveiled !
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2011, 09:45:50 am »
The Chinese decided the SPF J-20 thread had run its course and an exciting new thread was needed....


How considerate of them.  ;D
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Re: JH-XX ... China's stealthy fighter-bomber unveiled !
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2011, 11:38:48 am »
Question: If you RCS optimize the shape but construct the aircraft from Aluminum, will it still reasonably reduce the RCS? I see a lot of rivets in that photo....

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Re: JH-XX ... China's stealthy fighter-bomber unveiled !
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2011, 12:31:51 pm »
Question: If you RCS optimize the shape but construct the aircraft from Aluminum, will it still reasonably reduce the RCS? I see a lot of rivets in that photo....

Hmmm ... here are many rivets too to see without the primer or paint !

IMO the biggest question now is: Is this thing real ?? ... especially since the photo was reportedly taken at Chengdu and not at Xian ! ??? And then: Can China's aviation industry afford so many different projects in parallel ?

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Re: JH-XX ... China's stealthy fighter-bomber unveiled !
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2011, 12:44:33 pm »
Can China's aviation industry afford so many different projects in parallel ?

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Re: JH-XX ... China's stealthy fighter-bomber unveiled !
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2011, 12:51:00 pm »
The cockpit doesn't look stealth optimized, but most likely due to it being prototype stage.  What I'm thinking is that perhaps this is a competing design to the j-20. 

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« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2011, 01:38:21 pm »
The cockpit doesn't look stealth optimized, but most likely due to it being prototype stage.  What I'm thinking is that perhaps this is a competing design to the j-20. 

I can't think of that ! Why should CAC develop to competing designs for the same requirement !??

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Re: JH-XX ... China's stealthy fighter-bomber unveiled !
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2011, 01:41:32 pm »
Same way yf-23 and yf-22 were designed to compete for the same requirements?

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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2011, 01:57:26 pm »
Except the YF-22 and YF-23 were not built by the same company.

That said, I don't get the panic about rivets either, it was comical with the T-50 and remains so now. Unless the aircraft has been primered all over without regard to materials (occasionally seen on MiG-29s and the HAL Tejas), it does seem that it is primarily metal though. At least the parts that have been sufficiently unveiled, that is ;)

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Re: JH-XX ... China's stealthy fighter-bomber unveiled !
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2011, 02:26:42 pm »
You can tell it's fighter bomber from that?   Is it a hologram?   Maybe it's a twin seater J-20?   

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« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2011, 03:12:55 pm »
You can tell it's fighter bomber from that?   Is it a hologram?   Maybe it's a twin seater J-20?   

This.  (If it's not pshop.)
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« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2011, 03:36:20 pm »
What little can be seen does match remarkably well a CAD image of an undeniably JH-7A-inspired design which has been floating around for some time. If it is indeed real, IMHO the only reason to believe it is anything else than that would be if the photo has actually been taken at CAC (rather than JH-7 manufacturer Xian) - a twin-seat J-20 would indeed be the most likely explanation in this case.