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Thanks for that update. Need to be added is also:

  • MAINRING (KJ-2000 AEW/AWACS)
... and by the way I just read somewhere (see here: http://www.uscc.gov/sites/default/files/Lee%20Fuell_Testimony1.30.14.pdf9 about the new code-name for the Chengdu J-10 to be called FIREBIRD !??? Do You know more about that ?

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Given the rank of the person giving testimony, and context, it must be correct.


  • FIREBIRD (Chengdu J-10)
Also seen HAITUN for Harbin Z-9 which feels bogus.
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Thanks, Paul! (by the way, I'd left out FULLBACK because its validity didn't seem questionable to me, contrary to the others).

FIREBIRD is new to me. As for HAITUN (Z-9) and HAIOU (VT-UAV / BUAA), I have them as "Chinese names, perhaps reused by NATO".

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Thanks, Paul! (by the way, I'd left out FULLBACK because its validity didn't seem questionable to me, contrary to the others).

FIREBIRD is new to me. As for HAITUN (Z-9) and HAIOU (VT-UAV / BUAA), I have them as "Chinese names, perhaps reused by NATO".


I doubt it.


HAITUN is "Dolphin", the Chinese name of the Z-9, and is itself a translation of the French name of the original Eurocopter AS365, "Dauphin". It coincidentally fits the ASCC naming system inasmuch as it is two syllables (turboprop) and begins with H but I don't think it likely to be correct.

HAIOU - even more doubtful. Does it need a name in a Helicopter sequence? Its a (helicopter-type) UAV.
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FIREBIRD is pretty appropriate for J-10 actually, its a Russian mythological creature similar to the classical Phoenix.
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Thanks a lot ... So You think Firebird is the correct name !?

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We believe it likely that a mix of PLAAF and PLANAF units, deployed along or near the coast, are tasked with operations in the ADIZ, and have fighter aircraft like FLANKER and FIREBIRD at requisite
steady-state levels of alert to support “emergency identification” missions.

Given the context (testimony from Technical Director for Force Modernization & Employment at the National Air & Space Intelligence Center) I am pretty convinced.
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Here is DoD codenames for Soviet UAV's:

DR-1  ?
DR-2  ?
DR-3  VR-3 Reys (Tu-143)
DR-X-4  Yak Pchela-1
DR-5  VR-2 Strizh (Tu-141)


Haiou isn't western codename

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Y-11 CHAN is confirmed by SOC. FC-1/JF-17 FISHPASTE appears to come from a joke post I made in 2004 on Key Forum.
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To reflect its MiG-21 heritage I recommend the following: "Fishpaste" or "Fishcake"
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New codename

SS-X-31 for RS-26 Rubez http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/index-714.html

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codenames for Warzsaw Pact aircrafts:

Maya Aero L-29 Delfin
Market Aero L-39 Albatros

exist some other ?

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... and we missed FANTAN for the Q-5 !   ;D
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Ha ha! I love that. Thanks Deino;D