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Offline Jemiba

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Re: Saunders-Roe marine airliner project
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2008, 12:40:25 pm »
The Duchess, I think, was smaller, this one looks like the category of the P.192,
which would have been powered by 24 RR onways or 16 Bristol BE.25 turbo-props.
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Re: Saunders-Roe Princess, Duchess, P.192 and other Flying boat projects
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2008, 06:28:25 am »
Interesting ad from Saunders Roe.
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Re: Saunders-Roe Princess, Duchess, P.192 and other Flying boat projects
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2008, 12:09:13 pm »
Gentlemen,
The so called 'tandem Princess' is no a S.R Princess variation
but a forplane or tandem wing variant of
the Blackburn 'Clydesman'

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Re: Saunders-Roe Princess, Duchess, P.192 and other Flying boat projects
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2008, 01:41:11 pm »
A rather tasty advert for the Princess.

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Re: Saunders-Roe Princess, Duchess, P.192 and other Flying boat projects
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2008, 09:33:53 am »
Some more front cover ads.

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Re: Saunders-Roe Princess, Duchess, P.192 and other Flying boat projects
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2008, 11:39:06 am »
I have Beaver-splashed in Canada to downtown jetties, and took the Hythe ferry in 1958 past 2 moored Aquila Solents, just as the 3rd. landed in front from Funchal - Madeira at that time had no airport. That's the point: the operating cost of corrosion-intensive metal can only be recovered on sectors inaccessible to landcraft. BOAC and BSAAC already knew that in 1946, but acquiesced in MoS funding SR.45 as a joint military/civil programme because these State Corporations were not then expected to buy their aircraft, but to lease them from...us. BSAAC died in 1947; by 1948 BOAC knew that the Clipper-luxury, panoramic lounge-bars of big boats could not sell tickets against fast landplanes. KLM took LHR pax via Schiphol on to Jo'burg on DC-4: Sandringhams wallowed empty, bar official pax. Despite BOAC's marine exit in 1950, SR.45 continued as concept-proof for RAF/MR (that was the "research" that was alluded to, and Duchess notions were derivations of military schemes). RAF flew Sunderlands until 1957, but by 1956 landplane payload/range enhancements, plus concrete everywhere, dished big boats, even in Pacific.

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Re: Saunders-Roe Princess, Duchess, P.192 and other Flying boat projects
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2008, 10:15:07 am »
To be complete...

The designation of the tandem wing flying boat is
Blackburn B-49B....

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Re: Saunders-Roe Princess, Duchess, P.192 and other Flying boat projects
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2008, 02:53:21 pm »
 :D

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Re: Saunders-Roe Princess, Duchess, P.192 and other Flying boat projects
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2008, 06:32:17 am »
An interesting image ... do you have a date and source?
The illustrator is better known as a cartoonist, though the
image does appear to relate to pre 'Princess' studies at Saro.

Regards

Fred

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Re: Saunders-Roe Princess, Duchess, P.192 and other Flying boat projects
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2008, 07:06:11 am »
The Aeroplane 6 May 1949 bottom of the Letters page - a wry comment on the increasing size of flying boat projects...

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Re: Saunders-Roe Princess, Duchess, P.192 and other Flying boat projects
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2008, 05:50:11 am »
Came across this in a Canadian magazine...

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Re: Saunders-Roe Princess, Duchess, P.192 and other Flying boat projects
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2008, 03:05:30 am »
Hi,

the SARO P.192 giant flying boat from abovetopsecret site;
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread198736/pg1
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Re: Saunders-Roe Princess, Duchess, P.192 and other Flying boat projects
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2008, 03:29:29 am »
Would have been more impressive than both the Princess and the Duchess if it ever left the drawing board. Wonder if there have been any preliminary studies of it or project proposals by the late Henry Knowles archived in the RAE library?

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Re: Saunders-Roe Princess, Duchess, P.192 and other Flying boat projects
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2008, 12:18:34 am »
The saunders Roe 192 was a fantastic project, I was able to get hold of many drawings flightplans etc of the project which I am still hoping might one day be published.

Richard

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Re: Saunders-Roe marine airliner project
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2009, 05:30:23 am »
In the latest Aeroplane Monthly issue, featuring an article about the SR.45 Princess,
this design/concept or whatever we would call it, is shown again with the same picture,
described as a 6-engined flying boat, "..taking the idea of jet powered flying boat another step
beyond the Duchess.". So, not more, than an artist impression, probably (and that
may explain, why it isn't shown in Tagg/Wheeler "From Sea To Air"), but a really
beautiful one.   ;)
Just tried to make a basic drawing of it.
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