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Offline hesham

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I just ask, is the Saro P.208 project amphibian or flying boat.

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Re: Saunders-Roe Princess, Duchess, P.192 and other Flying boat projects
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2006, 12:20:08 pm »
Tagg/Wheeler "From Sea To Air" speak of a flying boat...
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Re: Saunders-Roe Princess, Duchess, P.192 and other Flying boat projects
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2006, 11:42:17 pm »
Hi,
First off, I want to say that this is really a great site, with lots of new info on projects, some of which I've never even heard of, but still pique my interest as an aviation enthusiast. I've always taken an interest in "paper" airplanes, and have a few of the books, like a couple of the "Luftwaffe Secret Projects" series. Now that I've found this forum though, it's rekindled my interest in the subject. Anyway, I was wondering if anybody has any info on the Saunders-Roe jet powered flying boats they designed during the 1950s, including the Duchess and especially the P.192, which was to fly on a route between England and Australia carrying around 1,000 passengers. I've heard of some specs, and know of some photos, but if anyone has them and can post them up, that'd great, as I've always been curious about that model in particular. Thanks in advance!

Phil

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Re: Saunders-Roe Princess, Duchess, P.192 and other Flying boat projects
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2006, 12:46:25 pm »
Welcome pgd2000,
here's, what I've found in Tagg/Wheelers "From Sea To Air",
let's begin with the Duchess, or P.131 .
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Re: Saunders-Roe Princess, Duchess, P.192 and other Flying boat projects
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2006, 12:48:34 pm »
.. and here's the P.192 :
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Re: Saunders-Roe Princess, Duchess, P.192 and other Flying boat projects
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2006, 12:53:41 pm »
And some other projects:
P.109 : 100.000 lb, 6 engines, probably Nene or Ghost
P.133 : Using the DH Comet wing with 4 Ghost engine swith afterburner
P.135 : Several proposals 4- or 6- engined ...
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Re: Saunders-Roe Princess, Duchess, P.192 and other Flying boat projects
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2006, 12:58:09 pm »
... and one as a canard with forward swept wings !
P.138 . Jet powered version of the Princess, with 12 Ghost engines
and the P.152 : An updated version of the Duchess
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Re: Saunders-Roe Princess, Duchess, P.192 and other Flying boat projects
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2006, 03:23:40 pm »
Hi there
Im also interested in Saro Princess projects - have a look at my web site - a work in progress and far from finished but i find it a good way of storing info. I have just acquired a couple of the saunders roe inhouse magasines - The New Slipway which Im in the process of scanning - I'll post articles afttheer the holidays. anyway have alook and let me know if its of any help

www.freewebs.com/saundersroeprincess


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Re: Saunders-Roe Princess, Duchess, P.192 and other Flying boat projects
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2006, 08:02:39 pm »
Wow! Thanks Jemiba for those schematics, I've never even heard of most of those, especially the FSW flying boat, but it's cool finally seeing these. And slmvbs, good job on the website, it's a good history about the SARO Princess. Thanks again!

Phil

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Re: Saunders-Roe Princess, Duchess, P.192 and other Flying boat projects
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2006, 09:47:30 am »
My dear Jemiba,

do you know that tandem wing Princess ?.

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Re: Saunders-Roe Princess, Duchess, P.192 and other Flying boat projects
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2006, 12:23:12 pm »
Of course I know ! It's from Orionblamblams Aerospace Project Review, isn't it ? 
And the Princess Twin is also well known, not only by Tophe, I think ...   ;)
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Re: Saunders-Roe Princess, Duchess, P.192 and other Flying boat projects
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2006, 01:33:14 pm »
Time to pass the hat round people!

Check out ebay item 190059143783  or search for saunders roe - it seems to be the original pictures from an aircraft inspection officer which can be seen on this web site

http://www.seawings.co.uk/saroprinwalk.htm

below is the introduction to the pictures that are on the site and now being sold on ebay.

This, the 50th flying boat walk-round on this site, just had to be special but I never in my wildest dreams thought that I would see this one!!! The pictures shown here are from the official Saunders-Roe files and were taken by a member of the Aeronautical Inspection Department (A.I.D.) during the actual construction to form a permanent record. Upon visiting one of my favorite second-hand bookshops, Falconwood Books, in Welling, Kent, a chance conversation with the proprietor, Andy Doran, about 'looking for anything about flying boats' lead to him showing me the most fabulous photographic album, then in his ownership, which contained the original prints you see here. This album was made by the original photographer, who has sadly passed on. I was absolutely dumfounded, never having seen them before in print anywhere, and when I finished drooling, just happened to say ' wouldn't it be nice if these could be scanned' when, lo-and-behold, he provided me with a cd containing all the prints on it. This gallery is the result. The original album has since changed hands, however, Andy gave his permission for SEAWINGS to display the images. I would like to think that the current owner would be happy also to have a permanent record on this site.
 
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Saunders-Roe marine airliner project
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2008, 10:24:22 am »
Hi,

the Saunders-Roe's chief designer,Mr. Henry Knowler designed a very beautiful
marine airliner aircraft,notice the engines was mounted at the rear wing and
it had three decks.
http://www.flightglobal.com/PDFArchive/View/1952/1952%20-%202685.html

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Re: Saunders-Roe marine airliner project
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2008, 10:44:39 am »
This was not a projected design but a visualisation of what could be
in he future.Some sources mentioned it as nuclear powered...

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Re: Saunders-Roe marine airliner project
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2008, 12:15:25 pm »
Not unlike the Duchess, though.