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Offline hesham

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De Monge projects
« on: August 21, 2010, 06:28:06 am »
Hi,

in the 1928 competition for RN.3 three-seat night recce aircraft,
which the main tenders were,ANF-120,Loire-30,Wibault-220 and
De Monge M-120.
The aircraft actually built and here is its data;

http://www.aviafrance.com/9972.htm

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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2010, 10:52:01 pm »
Thanks to remind this poorly known twin-boom project. There were many De Monge other twin-boomers (7.2, 7.3, 7.4, 7.5, 150).

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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2010, 06:24:55 am »
Hi,

when I spoke about the De Monge M-120 RN.3 aircraft,my dear
Tophe responded about there are many De Monge twin boom
projects,as he mentioned (7.2, 7.3, 7.4, 7.5, 150),and please
my dear Tophe if you have a more info or drawings to them.

I only found a the Model 7.2 project;

http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1923/1923%20-%200761.html
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1923/1923%20-%200762.html

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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2010, 08:58:35 am »
Hi Hesham,

Here-after some informations from "Aviation Magazine" (Jean Liron, date ?) and "Flugsport" (March 1925) concerning the De Monge Twin-boom aircraft and projects with a main specifications table and two photos (bad, sorry, copy of copies).

Translation of the table:
Type / Engine / Power / Span / Lenght / Height / Wing Area / Empty weight / Total weight / Max speed / Autonomy / Use / Crew + pax / MFG year / Registration / Number produced / Remarks:
Type 7-2: Not finished. "Grand raid" version autonomy: 7000km
Type 7-3: Scale model 1/3 of Type 7-2
Type 7-4: Scale model 1/3 of Type 150
Type 7-5: 2nd scale model 1/3 of Type 150


De Monge also designed a twin boom experimental glider which was engaged at the "Sailplane Offical Meeting of Combegrasse", France, in August 1922, piloted by Casale.
 
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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2010, 05:26:11 pm »
Thank you my dear Retrofit very much,

and for the Type-150,was it a military transport aircraft ?.
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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2010, 08:09:40 pm »
Scale model of DeMonge Type 7.5.

Three-view drawing of DeMonge Type 7.5.

Source: The Bugatti Revue
http://home.uni-one.nl/bugatti/revue3/rev3-4.htm

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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2010, 09:17:43 pm »
I will check, maybe next week-end, but I just had a look on my bibliographic booklet. Sources :
- Burnelli lifting body chapter :
Trait d’Union Bacalan Special : 3v of 7.5
Pilote Privé : 3v of glider 1922
Trait d’Union 171: details on 120
Jane’s 1927 : photo of 7.4, details
Aviation Magazine 383 : 3v of 7.3 and 7.4
The 7.4 and 7.5 were 2-seat models at scale 1/3 of the big 150 with 10 seats (the 7.2 having 32 seats)
- Pod and booms chapter :
Aviation Magazine 384 : 3v of 120RN3

That is all I have written down in the past. What should I check first, someday? (the Pilote Privé photocopy would be very difficult to find this year).

EDIT. The 120RN3 3-view has been posted by Hesham at http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,10809.0.html
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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2010, 09:21:36 pm »
Hi Triton,

The wording of "The Bugatti Revue " website can be misleading.
The photo shows in fact the full scale Type 7-5, which was itself a 1/3 scale model of the Type 150.

Thank you for this link!

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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2010, 06:04:28 am »
Thank you my dears Very much,

and here is the De Monge 7/4.

http://www.aviastar.org/air/france/buscaylet_74.php

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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2010, 09:20:06 am »
From the "Trait d'Union" magazine index (below). What are you interesting in?

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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2010, 09:24:08 am »
PS. : M is mention, P is photo, D is drawing, C is addition

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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2010, 04:28:23 pm »
All of them are amazing my dear Tophe.

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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2010, 08:02:39 pm »
But you may understand I will not scan and post 9 full pages of magazine, so choices have to be made. Next week-end maybe, I will check what has already been posted and what is still new. OK.

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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2010, 05:36:06 am »
OK my dear Tophe,

I am interesting in 1.1,1.2,6.1,8-1,9-1,10-1,140 and 160.

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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2010, 12:21:26 pm »
My friend Tophe,

I´m intersted in the Monoplane 1914 / 1.1 / 1.2 / 6-1 / 8-1 / 9-1 / 10-1 / 120 / 140 / 150 and 160. Hope you understand, but all thiese birds are new for me.

Thanks Maveric
I see you on the dark side of the moon.