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Offline hesham

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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #45 on: December 19, 2012, 04:47:37 am »
Excellent my dear Tophe,

thank you very very much,and can I ask about two aircraft,
the first 8-1 CN2 and what is that mean,two-seat naval fighter
or not,and the second 9-1,I think it was submitted to 1923 C.1
competition.

Hi,

I check about those projects,the 8-1 was two-seat day and night fighter,and I think
it was submitted to the C.2 1925 competition with De Monge M.101,which
the main tenders were;

ANF.3,ANF.4,Avimeta Av.88,Breguet Br.25,De Monge M.101 & M.8-1,Dewotine D.25,
Hanriot HD.33,Levasseur PL-6,Nieuport NiD-47,Potez-31,Salmson-Bechereau SB-5 &
SB-6,SPAD S.60 & S.70,Villiers V.24 and Wibault Wib.8 & Wib.12.



-Also for the De Monge 9-1,it was submitted to C.1 1926 Jockey Fighter competition,
which the main contenders were;

Amiot-110,Bernard-20,De Monge M.9-1,Dewoitine D.27,Gourdou-Leseurre GL-351,
Morane-Salnier MS.121 & MS.221,Nieuport NiD-48 & NiD-49,SPAD S.91 and Wibault
Wib.13,Wib.15,Wib.160 & Wib.170.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2012, 06:12:58 am by Stargazer2006 »

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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #46 on: March 19, 2013, 06:54:31 am »
The De Monge 5/2 was a single seat fighter fitted with a parasol
wing as a monoplane,it was flown first time in 1923.

A photo of the same aircraft:

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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #47 on: March 19, 2013, 06:56:16 am »
By this time (1924),the De Monge was associated with Buscaylet, and of
course it was not a fighter,but may be a racer or experimental aircraft.

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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #48 on: March 19, 2013, 07:27:12 am »
A beautiful side view of the De Monge 5/1:

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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2013, 01:25:01 am »

 
Almost everything on de Monge can now be found in the book about the Bugatti 100P, which has a complete chapter on all of the de Monge designs!
 
http://www.bugattipage.com/bugatti-100p-record-plane.htm
 

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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #50 on: May 20, 2013, 05:17:54 am »
Great find J.J.Horst.

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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #51 on: May 20, 2013, 01:02:10 pm »
'J.J. Horst' might just be 'Jaap Horst', the author of 'The Bugatti 100P record plane'
In that case, 'good read' would be more appropriate than 'great find'  :)
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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #52 on: October 13, 2014, 06:24:21 am »
From l'Aeronautique journal 1923,


here is a strange patent to De Monge.

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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #53 on: October 18, 2014, 10:34:41 pm »
Interesting, four propellers, but why? More cargo capacity? Greater stability?  It seems that the smaller ones were connected to the main propellers.

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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #54 on: October 19, 2014, 04:08:27 am »
Interesting, four propellers, but why? More cargo capacity? Greater stability?  It seems that the smaller ones were connected to the main propellers.


My dear Bigvlada,frankly,I don't know why four propellers ?.

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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #55 on: October 19, 2014, 12:14:31 pm »
To provide a contant airflow axis over the wing. Small outboard props were driven by the
exhaust gas of the main engines.

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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #56 on: October 19, 2014, 12:55:53 pm »
The way the props are cross connected would also reduce asymmetric thrust in the event of engine A or B failing.
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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #57 on: October 19, 2014, 02:37:06 pm »
Many thanks for explanations my dear Lark and Bill Walker.

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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #58 on: July 22, 2018, 11:24:59 am »
I start from the end of the Trait d'Union collection, to get corrections before mistakes.
#175:
In 1922 Show was presented the Buscaylet-De Monge 5-2 fighter and a drawing of the 3-engined 7-2 (9000kg weight plane for 30 passengers on 1000km distance at speed over 200km/h).
Louis-Pierre de Monge de Franeau was a Belgium citizen, born in 1890 and deceased July 25th 1977 in New York. He built his first airplane in 1911. He worked during WW1 for the Lumière company. After the war, he stayed technical director for Lumière while creating his own design bureau. He designed and built many machines in France. After the failure of them, he went and worked in Belgium for Imperia. In 1937, he has been the designer of the Bugatti racer for the Deutsch de la Meurthe Cup.

My dear Tophe spoke here about Type 1.2,a 30 passenger aircraft Project.

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Re: De Monge projects
« Reply #59 on: July 22, 2018, 05:45:30 pm »
De Monge's automatic stability prototypes of 1914 and 1918 are now in a separate topic:
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,30570/all.html