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Re: Royal Navy Type 26 Frigate
« Reply #61 on: July 02, 2017, 04:17:56 am »
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/multi-billion-pound-defence-deal-secures-thousands-of-uk-jobs

http://www.baesystems.com/en/article/manufacturing-contract-for-type-26-global-combat-ship-awarded-to-bae-systems

First three ships formally ordered finally, no indication on class or ship naming as yet.

Brilliant news Geoff_B,   No doubt the naming of the ships will be interesting, since we had the Daring class Type 45 air defense destroyers.

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Re: Royal Navy Type 26 Frigate
« Reply #62 on: July 20, 2017, 06:42:05 am »
The first Type 26 Frigate will be known as HMS Glasgow and the Frigate will be known as the City class.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-40660677

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Re: Royal Navy Type 26 Frigate
« Reply #63 on: July 20, 2017, 07:39:23 am »
The first Type 26 Frigate will be known as HMS Glasgow and the Frigate will be known as the City class.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-40660677

Hmm. We have HMS Belfast extant, so what city will represent Northern Ireland?

Of Northern Irish cities, Londonderry/Derry has been used for a Type 12, and the city has a naval association. The choice of name is politically loaded though.

Lisburn and Newry are new cities, but with no naval connection.

Armagh is an ancient city, but again with no naval connection - though its name was a suggestion for the Type 61 Class Frigate. Armagh might have pole position because of that, but Lisburn or Newry could surprise.

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Re: Royal Navy Type 26 Frigate
« Reply #64 on: July 20, 2017, 07:53:10 am »
Are they retaining the "frigate" designation?  The size/weight of this ship is pretty close to a destroyer.  Then again, a Zumwalt is cruiser sized so it seems like ship class is pretty elastic depending on sales politics.

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Re: Royal Navy Type 26 Frigate
« Reply #65 on: July 20, 2017, 10:51:20 am »
Hmm. We have HMS Belfast extant, so what city will represent Northern Ireland?

I don't think the museum ship "HMS Belfast" is technically in commission, so they could reuse that name without too much trouble.  Would actually make a great photoshoot, with the new ship steaming past the old one docked in the Thames.

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Re: Royal Navy Type 26 Frigate
« Reply #66 on: July 20, 2017, 12:24:07 pm »
Hmm. We have HMS Belfast extant, so what city will represent Northern Ireland?

I don't think the museum ship "HMS Belfast" is technically in commission, so they could reuse that name without too much trouble.  Would actually make a great photoshoot, with the new ship steaming past the old one docked in the Thames.

I would have no problem with Belfast 2, has a certain ring to it don't you think.

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Re: Royal Navy Type 26 Frigate
« Reply #67 on: July 20, 2017, 12:51:37 pm »
Assuming that the Type 42 names plus London are re-used, they may not use an
Ulster city name, though Antrim was still in commission when most of the 42s were built.
Bristol still in?

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Re: Royal Navy Type 26 Frigate
« Reply #68 on: July 20, 2017, 01:58:02 pm »
"BAE Systems is offering the Royal Navyís Type 26 Global Combat Ship (GCS) design for the Canadian Surface Combatant (CSC) program"

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http://www.baesystems.com/en-ca/maritime-capabilities/type-26-global-combat-ship

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We believe Type 26 GCS could be the right solution for CSC.  The ship meets Canada's high-level requirements - already released - and will be capable of deployment worldwide for extended periods, undertaking a wide range of roles from high intensity conflict to humanitarian assistance, including anti-submarine warfare and air defence.  It is flexible, versatile and is highly survivable with an extremely low acoustic signature. The Type 26 design is tailored to be inherently flexible to accommodate the different ways that international customers build their ships, minimising cost and risk.
 
Modular design
 
The keys to the vesselís ability to meet the Canadian requirement and to accommodate Canada-specific sub-systems are its modular design and open systems architecture. The same features will also minimise cost of ownership and facilitate Canadian industry playing a leading role in through-life support and upgrade; delivering long term economic benefit to Canada.
 
150 years' heritage
 
At BAE Systems we have more than 150 years' heritage in warship design, and over the last 50 years have designed and built some of the quietest ships and submarines ever deployed.  These low acoustic signatures are crucial for ships to evade detection from submarines, which ultimately translates into the safety and survivability of the crew, and the ability of the ship to successfully complete its mission.

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Re: Royal Navy Type 26 Frigate
« Reply #69 on: July 20, 2017, 02:11:15 pm »
The Global Combat Ship for Australia

Published on Jun 22, 2017

A next-generation capability to secure Australian jobs for generations.

For the SEA5000 program BAE Systems will offer the Commonwealth the export version of the Type 26 - our Global Combat Ship (GCS). The GCS is the newest, most advanced and most capable Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW) platform in the world. Purpose designed for ASW, the GCS combines superior acoustic stealth with peerless general purpose capabilities, exemplified by the multi-mission bay, which provides unparalleled mission flexibility.


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Re: Royal Navy Type 26 Frigate
« Reply #70 on: July 21, 2017, 05:39:26 am »
Good to see that both Canada and Australia are looking at the Type 26 so early on, hope that they purchase some in the near future.

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Re: Royal Navy Type 26 Frigate
« Reply #71 on: July 21, 2017, 06:06:58 am »
Are they retaining the "frigate" designation?  The size/weight of this ship is pretty close to a destroyer.

RN usage is destroyer=air defence, frigate=ASW. Weight growth means the old size equivalences don't always make sense. At 6500 tonnes, the Type 26 is the displacement of an 80s CGN, or a WWI ACR, while the Zumwalts are into WWI battleship range.

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Re: Royal Navy Type 26 Frigate
« Reply #73 on: July 27, 2017, 07:00:35 am »
http://cdrsalamander.blogspot.ie/2017/07/type-26-and-remnant-royal-navy.html

There's some significant exaggeration in there, RN numbers are adequate for patrolling home waters, but there's undoubtedly a shortage of escorts if we want to sortie a CVBG and an Amphibious Task Group at the same time and retain that coverage. OTOH coalition ops could draw in escorts from other nations with blue-water escort forces and fewer major platforms to escort.

I'd certainly like to see the escort forces strengthened, but the RN has become an unbalanced force and escorts are where it is weakest, if you look at amphibious capabilities, or attack subs, and CVF in future, then peer forces start to become rather thinner on the ground.

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Re: Royal Navy Type 26 Frigate
« Reply #74 on: July 27, 2017, 01:14:34 pm »
The video shows a large mission bay similar in concept to the LCS.  The ship size is pretty close to the type 45.  I haven't seen any unit cost comparisons between the two types.