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Re: San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive
« Reply #60 on: September 13, 2016, 11:25:56 am »
Great find. Didn't realize that Sub-based ABM concepts went back that far.

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Re: San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive
« Reply #61 on: September 14, 2016, 04:28:14 am »
There were a few interesting ideas of different deployments of ABM systems at that time (inter-service rivalry).  1967 fits in with SABMIS (http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,8305.0.html) which according AWST (July 17,1967) was to a initially be a surface based system with eventual submarine launched interceptors. A Polaris based ASAT system was also being pursued as well even earlier (AWST Sep 28, 1964).

The USAF also had proposals to use Minuteman missiles as an ABM system as well (AWST March 31, 1969), even to the point of having C-5s on airborne alert as an ABM system.

However, this is a topic for other threads.  The slide is an interesting find.

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Re: San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive
« Reply #62 on: March 26, 2017, 07:46:01 pm »
A couple of very interesting images added to the SDASM's Flickr Commons collection today. The description for the side-view of the model in the photo is incorrect, however, the adjacent photo in the collection with a head on view describes the model as, "Model Aerojet; Plastic Space Plane Date: 07/09/1962".  The name on the model stand for the side-view describes the model as "Aerospace Plane."

As best as I can glean from the two photos of the model, it appears to be mixed-propulsion, with intakes aft along either side, presumably for the air-breathing portion of flight, plus what appears to possibly be provision for retractable canards on the nose.

This design doesn't ring any bells with me, it may even be a nominal representation of an "Aerospace Plane" concept, but I figure many here may have a better idea (if so, moderators please move to the most appropriate topic).
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/33507549292/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/33280381880/


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Re: San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive
« Reply #63 on: March 26, 2017, 07:52:53 pm »

This design doesn't ring any bells with me, it may even be a nominal representation of an "Aerospace Plane" concept,

It's one of the Convair designs for the aptly-named "Aerospace Plane" program, a USAF program to develop an airbreathing reusable launch system.
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Re: San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive
« Reply #64 on: March 27, 2017, 06:24:57 am »
Unfortunately, the captions for many of the the recently uploaded batch of photos are somewhat screwed up.  For example, there's a sweet pic of an Atlas BGRV lifting off, but it's captioned as a "test rig", a space station concept is captioned as a solar-powered vehicle, and so on.

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Re: San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive
« Reply #65 on: April 19, 2017, 10:54:51 am »
Below are a number of intriguing photos posted by the San Diego Air & Space Museum (SDASM) Archives at their Flickr site. They belong to the Robert Reedy Collection.

Here is Reedy's brief bio as described by the SDASM:
"Robert Reedy was a native of Amarillo Texas. He attended college in Wichita Kansas, studying aeronautical engineering. On graduation he was quickly snapped up by Stearman Aircraft. During his subsequent career he made stops at Lockheed, Thorp and back to Lockheed where he retired as a vice president of sales. Reedy was involved in the design of several Stearman, Vega and Thorp types, the Lockheed P2V, Little Dipper, Big Dipper, and L-1011..."

Among the photos in the Reedy collection are a number captioned as the Cessna CR-1 (reg. NR/NX 11717), and dated (via the SDASM description for each) as being taken in "Jan 1930". Despite the description and registration number, I have yet to find any other photos of such an aircraft in this specific configuration (enclosed cockpit aft of the wing trailing edge, shoulder-mounted wing, retractable landing gear, registration "11717"). The best information I can find is that after a single harrowing first flight by Clyde Cessna, the aircraft was deemed too dangerous to fly and re-built into the CR-2. Here is a SDASM photo of the Cessna CR-2:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/27137787416/


Here is how the Cessna CR-2 is described in the article authored by Bob Hirsch, "Cessna and Air Racing's Golden Age"  (American Aviation Historical Society (AAHS) Journal, Vol. 29 (1984), Page 296, 304), "This is a stretched version of the CR-1 which was about 2 feet, 8 Inches shorter. It Is not known If the CR-1 actually flew or was redesigned during construction. There are no public photos of it."

So, here are the photos in question, might these be photos of the Cessna CR-1 as originally constructed? if so, these may be the only known photos of it prior to its reconstruction into the CR-2. Can anyone confirm?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/27169387065/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/26563569034/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/26565110913/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/26565112283/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/27074429542/
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Re: San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive
« Reply #67 on: May 08, 2017, 11:50:07 am »
Here's one at the SDASM Flickr site that I can't put a finger on. Perhaps it is related to the Ryan 147 S-2?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/33697614023/


Here's a swing-wing (airliner?) concept with the name "National" on the tail. Reminiscent of how the original National Airlines (NAL) used to have "National" on the S-duct of their Boeing 727 fleet and the base of the vertical stab of their two Boeing 747 aircraft.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/33549078134/


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Re: San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive
« Reply #68 on: May 08, 2017, 12:04:16 pm »
Apparently that first one was from 1966.  :o
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Re: San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive
« Reply #69 on: August 05, 2017, 10:58:09 am »
New Update at SDAaSM Flickr Archive showing mockup and early production of the Convair 240.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/
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Re: San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive
« Reply #70 on: October 03, 2017, 09:31:47 am »
Edit:
I moved this post to the topic "US Naval Institute FLAUNT Concept".
Thanks, Silencer1!
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Re: San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive
« Reply #71 on: October 04, 2017, 01:03:46 am »
Quote from: SDASM Archives
Flaunt Fleet Air Ultra Naval transport sitting 25 above waves on rsbs retractable spar buoy stabilizer concept and design by Thomas P. Faulconer artist Joe Ferrara date 1985 includes plaque and article by designer on back
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https://flic.kr/p/Z1XwJm
Dear mods, please feel free to move this post to a suitable topic.  :)

Thanks for sharing!
I kindly suggest use the topic https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,21556.msg213377.html#msg213377, as a place for this picture.
Those "concept" thrilled me for a years, and only aafter I see this image I think about the size of FLAUNT. Is vessel such dimensions, greater then some ocean ships requires any additional means to swim in rough waves? Of course, the tasks to take-off and landing remains the most complex and author, IMHO, found an elegant solution.

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Re: San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive
« Reply #72 on: February 08, 2019, 02:00:14 pm »
Some more interesting images posted today on the SDASM Flickr Commons site as part of their Robert Kemp Collection (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/albums/72157691203954561/page6). Kemp was Convair/General Dynamics' chief illustrator.

What's going on here? Looks like a very Soviet satellite (possible return capsule?) of some type sending a signal to/from a relay satellite (of what appears American manufacture) and then to/from Russia, but that satellite is also apparently sending a signal to/from the United States. Part of the generic caption is "Advanced Space Systems." Plus, the ephemeral "lobes."
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/33154064078/


Then there this balloon-lifted (SIGINT?/ELINT?) array. Again, with an "Advanced Space Systems" partial file name.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/40064500013/


This one is much less a mystery, but I thought it might be of interest of some here. As per portions of its file name - "Advanced Space Systems . . . EML Electro Magnetic Launch to space"
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/33154068728/

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Re: San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive
« Reply #73 on: February 11, 2019, 04:02:12 pm »
More interesting images posted as part of the Robert Kemp Collection by the San Diego Air & Space Museum (SDASM) Archives on the Flickr Commons.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/albums/72157691203954561/page7
Any additional information on the images posted below (and previously above) is welcomed.

The balloon-lifted array (see prior post above), now being tugged along (to a new location?) by a Sikorsky Skycrane (CH-54 Tarhe).
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/33187515388/


A depiction of a mobile launched Project SLAM / PLUTO nuclear ramjet cruise missile (a.k.a. "The Big Stick.") (Mods, feel free to move to the SLAM/PLUTO forum topic, if more appropriate).
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/46338765404/


Then there's this compact mystery craft. A proposed parasite or submarine-based fighter? Is it a real or notional aircraft? A figment of the artist's imagination? I haven't any idea what this is.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/46148992415/


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Re: San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive
« Reply #74 on: February 12, 2019, 02:58:54 am »
Look like it has skids to land on grass and other unprepared surface. See the french Baroudeur