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Offline Just call me Ray

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Re: Gloster CXP-1001 fighter and bomber project for Taiwan
« Reply #45 on: November 15, 2009, 12:10:05 pm »
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It's a crappy self-made pic of a Lockheed Unmanned Combat Armed Rotorcraft (UCAR), BTW
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Re: Gloster CXP-1001 fighter and bomber project for Taiwan
« Reply #46 on: November 15, 2009, 12:53:21 pm »
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Re: Gloster CXP-1001 fighter and bomber project for Taiwan
« Reply #47 on: November 15, 2009, 01:00:04 pm »

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Re: Gloster CXP-1001 fighter and bomber project for Taiwan
« Reply #48 on: November 15, 2009, 03:59:18 pm »
In regard to the McDonnell Model 36 of 1946, the proposal became the XP-88 upon acceptance by the U.S.A.A.F. which then became the XF-88 Voodoo with formation of the U.S.A.F. Please see: http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p88.html. Can't find anything for a McDonnel Model 34 so far . . . however, Anigrand Craftswork makes an XF-88 in 1/72. You can find the model along with the dimensions and performance data at: http://www.anigrand.com/AA2058_XF-88.htm. Hope this helps! :)

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Re: Gloster CXP-1001 fighter and bomber project for Taiwan
« Reply #49 on: March 29, 2011, 07:09:27 am »
Hood did a typo over Models 34 and 36, but he was right, and the Tony Buttler book is right too: the McDonnell Model 34 was indeed a fighter project for the Free Chinese Air Force (Taiwan) circa 1946, which makes it a very likely competitor of the Gloster design.

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Re: Gloster CXP-1001 fighter and bomber project for Taiwan
« Reply #50 on: August 15, 2011, 05:07:44 pm »
I do not often promote my own work on this site (as it is mostly made up of fictional/imaginary material) but this particular work will probably be of interest to some, at least I hope so. Since I wasn't satisfied with the various profiles and 3-view plans of the CXP-1001 at my disposal (most of which differed widely — and wildly — especially as far as the wing length was concerned), I decided to do one myself. I do not claim it to be perfect nor absolutely similar to the actual mock-up, of which no photo ever surfaced. I tried my best to make it coherent, using an old and very basic three-view as a reference point and adding to it from various sources. The panelling of the Sharkit model served as an inspiration, and the nose gear was snatched from a Meteor T.7, with a two-part hatch (many depictions show a single panel hatch, so I admit this was a matter of personal choice here as to which one seemed the most likely). Needless to say, I welcome any criticism, constructive remarks and suggestions.


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Re: Gloster CXP-1001 fighter and bomber project for Taiwan
« Reply #51 on: August 16, 2011, 01:52:34 am »
That's great work always frustrating trying to make sense from varying information. Nice to see something akin to all the formation being put forward here promote your work as much as you desire as far as I am concerned.

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Re: Gloster CXP-1001 fighter and bomber project for Taiwan
« Reply #52 on: November 15, 2011, 09:05:01 am »
Hood did a typo over Models 34 and 36, but he was right, and the Tony Buttler book is right too: the McDonnell Model 34 was indeed a fighter project for the Free Chinese Air Force (Taiwan) circa 1946, which makes it a very likely competitor of the Gloster design.

Do you have any idea what Model 34 (i.e. the McDonnell's entry to the Chinese fighter competition) would have been? I've just looked into "McDonnell Douglas Aircraft Since 1920" but I found nothing on that project or the McDonnell's relations with China in the late 1940s.

Piotr

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Re: Gloster CXP-1001 fighter and bomber project for Taiwan
« Reply #53 on: November 15, 2011, 12:10:21 pm »
Nice job, I really appreciated it.

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Re: Gloster CXP-1001 fighter and bomber project for Taiwan
« Reply #54 on: November 15, 2011, 01:58:07 pm »
Thanks archipeppe!!  B)

While investigating some other subject today, I realized that one of McDonnell's chief designers, Constantine L. Zakharchenko, had designed the XP-1 forward-swept gull-wing fighter in China just before returning to the U.S. on January 9, 1943 when his contract expired. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a connection here to explain why, of all U.S. companies, McDonnell would be the one submitting a fighter design for Free China a few years later.

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Re: Gloster CXP-1001 fighter and bomber project for Taiwan
« Reply #55 on: November 17, 2011, 02:59:58 am »
Great 3-views Stargazer2006, well done.

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Re: Gloster CXP-1001 fighter and bomber project for Taiwan
« Reply #56 on: June 11, 2012, 04:39:12 am »
I've just googled a website on the CXP-1001 http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-1387742-1-1.html which is in Chinese (!) and translated it (using Google Translate, of course). It says very interesting things:

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After the Nationalist government fled to Taiwan to settle down again to continue the development work of the XCP-1001, after all, has invested a lot of money. In 1949, the Bureau of the KMT government's aviation industry independent trial of the XCP-1001 optional "Brent" centrifugal jet engine, and completed in 1952, Brent 2 "engine design drawings and proofing modification, while completion of engine test platform design and aircraft fuel system test equipment design. Part of the design of the XCP-1001 aircraft also completed the same year. However, due to the loss of a large number of personnel, materials, equipment, and lost the help of the Gloster Aircraft Company. Basically come to a halt in 1953 XCP-1001 development work. Due to the outbreak of the Korean War, the U.S. government began to arm Taiwan, Taiwan's exports to the world's advanced F-86 Sabre jet fighter, the KMT government formally abandoned the XCP-1001 development program. China's first jet fighter died.

Naturally the translation is not perfect, but my understanding of what you may see above is that the development of the CXP-1001 (or XCP-1001 as the aircraft is being referred to in the text) was continued in Taiwan after 1949 and was terminated only in 1953, when the RoC could purchase F-86s from the US.

What do you think about it?

Regards,
Piotr