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Cutaway Junkers Ju-87V1, Let me share here an interpretation of the cutaway of the first prototype of "Stuka", original author WEAL and modified by Motocar to recreate this forgotten version.
I don't know if any are from actual programs, they have the look of more general promotional artwork.
The second and third are definitely from some SES escort studies that were done in the 1960s. Not sure if they were strictly internal IR&D work or in response to Navy study tasks.
The Last one is the LVA, which was definitely a real concept, discussed here:
The third image is an illustration of the 3,000 ton (3,050 tonne) LSES frigate in operation alongside two Spruance class destroyers (one of them seems to be the USS USS Hewitt) in heavy weather conditions. Presence of Phalanx CIWS on the LSES strongly suggests that the image is actually from the second half of the 1970s (likely late 1977/early 1978, the timeframe when the basic design of the LSES was frozen & the Phalanx was approved for production).
Oh, you're right about the timing; I was off a decade. Is LSES (Large SES?) related to 3KSES or were they separate efforts?
"M88 engine upgrade (AB thrust > 8 T)"
Le standard F4 "prévoit également la prise en compte des évolutions attendues de la motorisation"
I don't disagree that we 'found out' during ODS the RG weren't what they were cracked up to be but I'd really be interested in links to who was saying this BEFORE the conflict. IIRC most articles I read said the US should be prepared to lose 20k+ soldiers.The RG were some of the best-trained and most-experienced in the region prior to the war.This is true, but it still does not mean much. The Iraqi army has one of the worst track records of the world.
They attacked Israel 3 times (48 67 73) and got trounced each time. They attacked on their own terms Iran when it was down with its revolution and still failed.
Their performance in ODS was dismal. And in 2003 they didn't defend even halfway-competently.
Not to mention that they kept running like rats in front of ragbag terrorists, to the point of losing half their country.
The Iraqi army always looked good to the casual observer because of their impressive inventories, but even for the standards of the armies of this region and culture, they've consistently underperformed.
Iraq's is really a failed military culture. Jordan's Arab legion is in a different class, for example.
The RG were some of the best-trained and most-experienced in the region prior to the war.This is true, but it still does not mean much. The Iraqi army has one of the worst track records of the world.