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Designation Systems / Re: Shorts S series
« Last post by Schneiderman on March 10, 2017, 01:51:49 pm »
OK, I took the PD list straight from Barnes' Putnam, and as there are no breaks it should be complete. It will be interesting to see where your project fits in.
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Designation Systems / Re: Shorts S series
« Last post by hesham on March 10, 2017, 01:12:16 pm »

S23/37  Observation Aircraft               sources say S24 but this seems unlikely as it was a four-year-old design and S23/37 was very specialised

You are right Scneiderman,

and there was a supersonic transport (SST) aircraft Project,with arrow-wing and powered
by four engines,but hard to find it in my PDFs (reports),and I want to check about it at
first.
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User Artwork / Re: The truly remarkable artwork of Gildas
« Last post by papacavy on March 09, 2017, 09:57:41 pm »
So, my friend, is the Progetto Caccia Bellomo are real airplane? Either way, you do excellent work. Complimenti!
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User Artwork / Re: The truly remarkable artwork of Gildas
« Last post by Gildasd on March 09, 2017, 01:45:45 pm »
I'm leaving this one as is...
Due to not having drawn for a long time, this is full of shading and hand technique errors, so better start something else!
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Designation Systems / Re: Shorts S series
« Last post by Schneiderman on March 09, 2017, 05:53:59 am »
Yes, its quite possible. I also suspect that they may have produced preliminary designs for specifications in the 1920s but without supporting documents I chose to leave them out for now. I'll update the list as new information becomes available.

EDIT...................

2/44      Civil Transport                       already in list
R1/36    Flying Boat                            added
S23/37  Observation Aircraft               sources say S24 but this seems unlikely as it was a four-year-old design and S23/37 was very specialised
E27/49  Research Aircraft                   already in the list. E27/49 was replaced by E.100 which was the SB.5
S9/36    Three-Seat Spotter Fighter     ]
S30/37  Torpedo Bomber                    ] I've added these three as possible but they do seem to fall outside of Gouge's design philosophy at this time
F11/37  Two-Seat Fighter                   ]

Attachments in post #44 have been updated with these and others
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Designation Systems / Re: Shorts S series
« Last post by hesham on March 09, 2017, 04:43:29 am »
Great work Schneiderman,

and Shorts also involved in many British Specifications,but we don't know the
drawing numbers for those Projects,such as;

2/44      Civil Transport
R1/36    Flying Boat
S23/37  Observation Aircraft
E27/49  Research Aircraft
S9/36    Three-Seat Spotter Fighter
S30/37  Torpedo Bomber
F11/37  Two-Seat Fighter
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Theoretical and Speculative Projects / Re: "The Plane Makers"
« Last post by TsrJoe on March 09, 2017, 02:40:50 am »
id love to see ga drawings of the 'Predator' and 'Sovereign' (the latter looking very much like a jet Herald type with laminar flow wings ?)

I have compiled what I can find in an FB album on the designs ...

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10208631696051327&type=1&l=ffb228890a

cheers, Joe
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Designation Systems / Re: Shorts S series
« Last post by Schneiderman on March 09, 2017, 01:34:29 am »
I've had a go at pulling together all the information in this thread and adding data from the Putnam Short Aircraft volume, Stuck on the Drawing Board, Project Cancelled, On Atlas' Shoulders and Secret Projects volumes. Mainly I was looking to see how to incorporate the between-the-wars unbuilt projects and I have also included some possible/probable projects from patents where the illustrations include a lot more detail than is relevant to the patents.
Bold is built aircraft. Italics are probable/possible. Yellow block indicates 3-view available.

Any comments or additions?

Sorry the table is jpg but it is too difficult to type formatted text directly. I have added it in pdf if that is better
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User Artwork / Re: Shadow on The Wall
« Last post by PlanesPictures on March 08, 2017, 12:43:37 pm »
M-50-36
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