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Modelling Forum / Avro z-101
« Last post by nivek626 on Today at 03:21:03 pm »
I am thinking of doing a model of this unbuilt subject. Attached is a photo of the Blue Steel that i added a cockpit to for inspiration. would have been a nightmare to fly 
The HP-111 would be interesting as it could have also had Civil Airlifter and Airliner potential and given Handley Page a much sounder footing to fight off the forced mergers being dictated by the govt of the time.
Hood - 'After giving much thought to this topic my choice would be the Handley Page HP.111 strategic airlifter.'

Me too, and it would have made the development of the HP.122/123 to OR.351 easier and possibly affordable.

User Artwork / Re: The truly remarkable artwork of Gildas
« Last post by Gildasd on Today at 04:48:08 am »
Detail on the previous doodle...
Hawker P.1121 was awesome. Vickers VC-7 was a great missed opportunity.
The 1952 Carrier, for the reasons outlined above. In a pinch the CVA01.

I would also choose the Miles M52. The morale and prestige from from being not only the first nation to break the sound barrier, but not having to get a lift or use rockets to do it would have been massive. Might have averted the neglect of aeronautical research after the war.

On the commercial front, proceeding with the Medway-powered Airco 121 rather than the insipid Spey-powered HS Trident could have provided some competition for Boeing. And I use "Airco" to demonstrate another problem which plagued the aerospace industry: the awful government-mandated structural-reorganisation plans whose focus was the structure - not succesful products delivered by industry.
After giving much thought to this topic my choice would be the Handley Page HP.111 strategic airlifter.

It was better than the Shorts Belfast and would have been more flexible and some might have even survived the 1975 defence cuts given the RAF might have been able to convince the MOD and Treasury that there were enough commonalities with the surviving Victor tanker fleet. Or the HP.111s might have made excellent additions to the tanker fleet a decade earlier than the VC-10 and Tristar conversions.
It would still be a niche aircraft, perhaps no more than a dozen of them, but it might have been a wiser choice.
Agree on the 1952 carrier as it would have been better value for money than the various rebuilds of existing ships while delivering greater capability. 

I believe one of the requirements was that it should be able to cross deck USN types to facilitate future lend lease arrangements and as such was intended to operate Canberra sized aircraft (or more to the point A-3 sized ones).  This would have facilitated the use of standard, or at least less extensively modified US types, as well as allowing British designers greater flexibility in the designs they offered.
ARSEN - Arsen'yev

CHECH - ??
Chech-A     Ekranoplan
Chech-B     Ekranoplan

CHUCK - ??
Chuck-A      Ekranoplan
Chuck-B      Ekranoplan
Chuck-C      Ekranoplan
Chuck-D      Ekranoplan
KASP - Kaspiysk
Kasp-A     KM 'Caspian Sea Monster'
Kasp-B     A-90 Orlyonok (also TAG-C)

Kiyev - Antonov
Kiyev-A     An-72 COALER
Kiyev-B     An-124 CONDOR
Kiyev-C     An-74 MADCAP?

Sukhoi Su-25 FROGFOOT (Also RAM-J)

NOVO - GAZ-153 factory airfield (Novosibirsk)
NOVO-A    Tu-22 sized aircraft with 'delta' wings - probably a Tu-22 with outer wings removed
NOVO-C     Possibly an Su-24BM / T-60 related test item?

RAM - Zhukovsky / "Ramenskoye"
RAM-A     Tupolev Tu-123 Yastreb drone
RAM-B     Yakovlev Yak-28-64
RAM-C     Yakovlev Yak-36 FREEHAND
RAM-D     Probably Ye-150/Ye-152
RAM-E     Sukhoi T-6-1 (fixed wing Su-24 prototype)
RAM-F     Sukhoi T-6-2IG (vg wing Su-24 prototype)
RAM-G     Yakovlev Yak-36MP/Yak-38 FORGER
RAM-H     Sukhoi T-4
RAM-I     (omitted from sequence)
RAM-J     Sukhoi T-8 (Su-25 FROGFOOT)
RAM-K     Sukhoi T-10 (Su-27 FLANKER)
RAM-L     Mikoyan 9-12 / (MiG-29 FULCRUM)
RAM-M    Myasishchev M-17 MYSTIC
RAM-N    Identified as a Tu-22M fuselage
RAM-O    (omitted from sequence)
RAM-P     Tupolev Tu-160 BLACKJACK
RAM-Q     Ilyushin Il-102
RAM-R     Buran
RAM-S     Possibly Yak-38M? Mentioned in report alongside FORGER-A

SIB-A      Aerodynamic test vehicle, sounds possibly 1.42 related from description?

TAG - Taganrog
TAG-A     Beriev/Bartini VVA-14
TAG-B     ?
TAG-C     A-90 Orlyonok
TAG-D    Beriev A-40 MERMAID

TOM - Tomilino (Mil OKB)
TOM-A     Mi-24 prototype with fenestron tail rotor
TOM-B     Mi-28 HAVOC

VLAD - Akhtubinsk/'Vladimirovka'
Theoretical and Speculative Projects / Re: Early Idea for Trail ?
« Last post by hesham on Yesterday at 09:37:39 am »
Thank you my dear Michel.
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