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Gordon Kent, Top Hook, 2002

United States

USS Thomas Jefferson (CVN-??)
Nimitz Class
Details as per the real ships.

USS Fort Klock (CG-??)
Ticonderoga Class Cruiser
Details as per the real ships.

Unnamed
Arleigh Burke Class Destroyer
Details as per the real ships.

India

Unnamed
Various Warships

China

Unnamed
Various Warships

Plot summary: A Chinese controlled mole steals something very important from the US Government and the chase is on to catch him before it can be passed on, even as the Chinese Government starts making moves that could lead to WWIII.

Note: The authors name is actually the pseudonym of a father/son writing team. The story takes place over an unspecified period in 1999. The novel that follows, "Hostile Contact" appears to start shortly after the end of this novel so it is also set in 1999.
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Designation Systems / Re: Beriev aircraft
« Last post by hesham on Today at 08:24:06 am »
The Beriev MS series;

MS-1   was MBR-2-M-34
MS-2   was MBR-5
MS-3   was KOR-1
MS-4   was MDR-5
MS-5   was MDR-5
MS-6   was MDR-5-2-M87
MS-7   -----?
MS-8   was MBR-7
MS-9   was KOR-2
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Alternative History and Future Speculation / The Scimitar FAW scenario
« Last post by zen on Today at 07:21:12 am »
This scenario is to work on how to proceed with the Scimitar FAW, Type 556 to NR/A.38 of which one example was ordered in 23 Sept 1954 XH451, canceled in April 1955.

This machine is notable for the following.

29" AI.18B, coupled with dual computer for Firestreak and Red Dean.
twin 30mm ADEN cannon.
Reheated RA.24R Avons.

Length 58.5ft
Span 37.17ft
Wing Area 478sqft
MTOW (carrier?) Long range fighter (two drop tanks, two guns, two Firestreak) 41,852lb.
Climb sea level 43,600ft/min
Speed sea level 690mph
Service ceiling 52,150ft

Obviously this would mean killing off the DH110 - Sea Vixen.
But to draw in required funds and capacity to make sense of this properly I suspect later marks of RAF Javelin would have to be sacrificed, at least the 80 FAW 7 that went straight to storage in 1956 because of being superseeded by FAW.8.
Possibly the mk6 needs to be sacrificed from 1957.
And certainly the 'Thin Wing' development.

Experimentation on a possible mixed powerplant variant, using a rocket motor in the tail would be explored and ultimately abandoned.

To further fund developments and make this a compromise between both RAF and RN, it seems logical the RN would have to give up on NA.39, funding instead a Strike derivative of the Type 556, such as the Type 564, albeit with reheat to make the machine more able to get off a Carrier's deck (though likely at the sacrifice of full fuel and a need to tank before the mission).
We can assume all marks come with a fully blown wing.

We can fairly easily conceive of the mkII comprising RB.106, AI.18C and Red Hebe.
As surely as we can envision an alternative using Spey's and AI.23. The latter element potentially permitting a further development as a true multirole machine.

So...numbers
FAA FAW mkI = 119.
RAF FAW mkI = 33+80-ish so approximately 113.
FAA S mkI = 76 to 100 (Scimitar F1 number and original order number)
RAF S mkI = 70 to 100 (F4 number and a notional figure for MRI).
FAA mkII = (circa 1965-67) 14 from the mkI run end, 15 newbuild, 67 conversions.
FAA S mkII = 84 (Buccaneer number).
RAF S mkII = 150 (P1154 and Jaguar scale number)

alternative path
Having both funded varients of the Scimitar FAW, a 'common' aircraft program is agreed circa 1958-1960 and so something approximate to the two seater Type 576 is set on as the solution, comprising reheated Avon RB.146's, AI.23 and nuclear strike facilities.

Scimitar F(G)R mk II.
RAF = 70 initial, with a further 80 post TSR.2 cancelation, potential further order of a mkIII.
FAA = 140 in total.

Assuming either of these scenario's go forward, several things result.
1. Red Dean is taken to service and likely either improved marks of this or a successor SARH AAM.
2. Sea Vixen, Buccaneer, and later Jaguar are the major casualties. With the addition of later marks of Javelin.
3. common successor program is put back to the later 1970s, though initially this would be the early 1970s. This obviates any rush to OR.346, removes the F4 from both RN and RAF needs.

Beyond this therefore the question is over exports.
Sea Vixen, Javelin, and bar a few to South Africa the Buccaneer did not achieve export success.
But can we say the same of these Scimitars?
I would presume a possible rival bid to the Saudis to EE's Lightning.
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Alternative History and Future Speculation / Re: Q-band Tartar for the RN
« Last post by zen on Today at 07:15:52 am »
Should we not consider the Tartar County  and a 'Bristol' successor instead first?

Or perhaps the Type 12 with mk22 launcher?

That said could we not have seen a real 'common hull frigate' developed? Q-band Tartar is a medium to SHORAD system really.

However its plausible that if coupled with purchase of a AShM use-able from the mk16 or mk22 launcher that this could be applied to a notional Type 21. But at what cost?

One option is a 'lightweight' version of the Q-band system, closer possibly to the 'lightweight' Sea Wolf system (about 5tons). I suspect with the mk22 launcher.
Under such conditions a 'new' missile based on Sparrow would further reduce weight and be marketed as the replacement for older Q-band Tartar and Sea Cat systems.
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Gordon Kent (Pseud), Damage Control, 2006

United States

USS Thomas Jefferson (CVN-??)
Nimitz Class
Details as per the real ships.

USS Fort Klock (CG-??)
Ticonderoga Class Cruiser
Details as per the real ships.

USS Lawrence (FFG-???)
Oliver Hazzard Perry Class Frigate
Details as per the real ships.
Name clashes with a Charles F. Adams class destroyer that was decommissioned in 1994.

USS Mindanao
Amphibious assault ship, class not specified
No other details provided.

Canada

HMCS Picton (FFH-???)
Frigate, class not specified
Halifax Class Frigate
Details as per the real ships.

India

INS Vishnapatingham
Light Aircraft Carrier, class not specified
No other details provided.

INS Betwa
Brahmaputra Class Frigate
Real ship, details as in service.

INS Nehru
Sindhughosh (Kilo) Class Submarine
Details as per the real ships.
In addition to the standard armament the submarine has been fitted with a Surface to air missile launcher mounted in conning tower. It can only be fired when the submarine is surfaced.
Later fitted with three torpedo tube launched nuclear missiles described as clones of the US Tomahawk Missile.

Unnamed
Various warships

Plot summary: A joint US/Indian Navy exercise descends into chaos when an environmentalist suicide cult launches a coup attempt in India.

Note: The authors name is actually the pseudonym of a father/son writing team. The story takes place over four days of an unspecified year. Specific mention of Windows XP/2000 in the story without mention of later versions suggests that it can take place no later than the first half of the month of January 2007. The suicide cult in the novel was inspired by the Aum Shinrikyo cult in Japan.
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'Top Hook' on Bookfinder

Thanks, found it today at a second hand bookshop.
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Alternative History and Future Speculation / Re: Q-band Tartar for the RN
« Last post by Volkodav on Yesterday at 10:40:14 pm »
I wonder how the volume and weight required by a system such as you describe would compare to a system such as Seawolf, radars, consoles, racks, cabinets as well as the actual launcher/magazine?  For example the USN Brooke Class DEG is comparable in size to many RN frigates, larger than some smaller than others, suggesting that a UK Tartar system, that could subsequently be upgraded to Standard, should be possible to fit on any of the RNs GT powered frigates of the 70s or 80s, possibly in addition to Seacat / Seawolf.  An idea that comes to mind is the strengthened Type 21 for the RAN mentioned in Browns Rebuilding the Royal Navy that was to incorporate US systems, Sea Sparrow would be the obvious choice but would Tartar and a Mk-22 be possible?
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User Artwork / Re: 6th generation fighter concepts
« Last post by pedrospe on Yesterday at 08:15:24 am »
6th generation naval stealth strike/fighter ,with forward swept wings,based on Rodrigo Avella J-50;

PSA-157
 


6th generation stealth strike aircraft, with variable geometry wings,based on Rodrigo Avella J-50;

PSA-146



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Theoretical and Speculative Projects / Re: Fictional Warships - Novels
« Last post by Graham1973 on Yesterday at 05:30:00 am »
Gordon Kent (Pseud), Hostile Contact, 2003

United States

USS Thomas Jefferson (CVN-??)
Nimitz Class
Details as per the real ships.

USS Yellowjacket
Amphibious Assault Ship, class not specified.
Insufficient details provided to determine specific class, what is given fits either the Tarawa Class or the Wasp Class.

USS Fort Klock (CG-??)
Ticonderoga Class Cruiser
Details as per the real ships.

USS Jackson Baldwin
Frigate, class not specified.
No other details provided.

USS Esek Hopkins (FFG-??)
Oliver Hazzard Perry Class Frigate
Details as per the real ships.

USS Fort Stanwix
Warship, class not specified.
No other details provided.

China

Admiral Po
Nuclear Submarine (SSN), class not specified.
No other details provided.

Chairman Mao
Nuclear Submarine (SSN), class not specified.
No other details provided.

Plot summary: Following the death of Chinese controlled mole in the CIA (Which takes place in the novel 'Top Hook', which is on my 'to find' list.), the Chinese government decides to take action to punish those responsible.

Note: The authors name is actually the pseudonym of a father/son writing team. The novel unlike the first two in the series ('Night Trap', 'Peacemaker') does not mention what year it is set in, nor which months it takes place in. The preview of 'Top Hook' the third novel in the series which is available on Kindle implies that novel takes place in 1999, which would imply these events are taking place either in 1999 or 2000.
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