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User Artwork / Re: Motocar's Cutaway drawings
« Last post by steelpillow on Yesterday at 01:53:10 pm »
Thank you for explaining all that, I appreciate it.
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Theoretical and Speculative Projects / Re: Fictional Warships - Novels
« Last post by Graham1973 on Yesterday at 09:11:50 am »
Larry Jerram-Croft, Bog Hammer, 2014

United Kingdom

HMS Prometheus
Leander Class
Details as per the members of the class given the Batch 3 Exocet/Seawolf conversion.
Note: Also appears in the novel 'Sea Skimmer'.

RFA Tidepool (A76)
Tide Class Replenishment Oiler
Real ship, details as in service.
Note: In real life the ship was sold to Chile in 1982. In the novel she is still in British service as of 1988. Later on in the novel the same ship is referred to as RFA Tidespring (A75), which was retained in British service until 1991.

United States

USS Sacagawea (CG-??)
Ticonderoga Class Cruiser
Details as per the real ships.
Note: The author refers to the ship as a 'Ticonderoga Class Aegis Destroyer' in the novel. At the time the story is set the name was not used by any US Warship. The last ship to bear the name was a navy tugboat (USS Sacagawea (YT-326)) sold overseas in 1946. The most recent ship to bear the name was the second ship (USNS Sacagawea (T-AKE-2)) of the Lewis and Clark Class of dry cargo ships launched in 2006. The name does not fit with the scheme chosen for the Ticonderoga Class, which is famous American battles.

Iran

MV Irinda
Armed Merchant Ship
Converted Bulk Grain Carrier
Speed: 20 knots.
Armament: 1 x 105mm gun concealed in fore-most hold. 1 x nuclear (The warhead was supplied by Pakistan.) tipped HWASONG-6 (North Korean SCUD copy.) missile concealed in the after-most hold. Crew has various hand held weapons including rocket propelled grenades.
Note: Stolen from Iraq. Armament installed by Iran.

Unnamed
Frigate, class not specified (Most likely a member of the Alvand Class.)
Armament as per the real ships, save the anti-ship missiles are four stern mounted Exocet missiles rather than 5x Sea Killer Mk2s (as built) or 4x  CS-802s (as upgraded in the 1990s) .
Other details as per the real ships.

Unnamed
Several Boghammar High Speed Patrol Boats
Details as per the real ships.
Note: Ships of this type are operated by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, rather than the Iranian Navy.

Holland

Unnamed
Submarine, class not specified
No other details provided.

Russia

Unnamed
Foxtrot Class Submarine
Details as per the real ships.

Plot summary: Some three years after harrowing events of 'Arapaho' (The novel runs 1988 - 1989.), the series hero Jon Hunt has become involved in searching for a leak in the Ministry of Defence while his wife (Met during the events of 'Arapaho'.) earns her wings as a Helicopter Pilot. Desperate for a sea position, opportunity comes with the death of the commander of the ship he served on during the Falklands War.

Note: Quite an interesting story, especially for those who grew up in the 1980s, let down by some editing glitches. This is the fifth novel in the series that begins with 'Sea Skimmer'.
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Modelling Forum / Re: Avro z-101
« Last post by Tonton-42 on July 25, 2017, 10:39:00 pm »
Did that "thing" ( :o) could flying ???

Aerodynamically it's not too different from the Nord "Harpon", I think, see
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1891.msg65306.html#msg65306

Thanks Jemiba ! My ignorance is without limit !  My surprise also !
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Modelling Forum / Re: B-29 model
« Last post by Tonton-42 on July 25, 2017, 10:27:22 pm »

Hi !

To the left the definition Boeing, to the right mine... Small distortion on the length of the dome of the bomber but I think of being right (pride?) further to analysis of photos in several works. Besides I assert that 90 % of the plans 3 views (except facsimile!) in the works are false : the section before is of circular section centered on all its length! B-29 has no nose which sticks up upward or subsides downward ! It is perfectly symmetric on all the axes ...

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Tonton
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User Artwork / Re: Motocar's Cutaway drawings
« Last post by Motocar on July 25, 2017, 10:17:26 pm »
Cutaway Blohm & Voss BV-210, a Nazi tail-fighter project, designed by the firm Blohm & Voss powered by a BMW 003E1 axial-flow motor, its design was very advanced using splayed wings and horizontal stabilizers located on edge fairings Of leakage and pronounced negative dihedral, armed with cannons of 30 millimeters but also could be armed with other type of arms of smaller caliber, just as it could in the future carry the modern air-to-air missiles "X-4", its train Of tricycle landing whose nose wheel rotated 90 degrees to retract without interfering with the intake of air direct to the engine, the main wheels of retraian in a fairing under the fuselage designed for that purpose and that in turn allowed to store more fuel, even so Its radius of action was relatively short, thought for interceptions missions without leaving aside the possibility of facing the allied fighters, author Motocar with pallets of Peter Allen for flitzerart.

This cutaway does not look like the habitual B&V internal construction, but is more like a copy of what most other designers were doing. I assume that it is to a great extent fanciful, or, if not, what is its provenance?
For a start, the wing leading edge and main spar would have formed a steel D-section torsion box which doubled as the main fuel tank. This was how Vogt adapted his trademark cylindrical spar-cum-tank for a thin wing. Second, I would have expected the main air intake and wing transfer box to form a single integral sheet steel fabrication, from which the rest of the aircraft sprang. This was a feature of the subsequent designs. It took the structural loads away from the aerodynamic skinning and allowed large access panels with relatively few supporting ribs or stringers between them.
Otherwise, the overall form looks about right.
I'd like to know the provenance of the armament options too, are they genuine?

Greetings steelpillow, the drawing says "Free interpretation" for lack of reliable data and only small drawings of profiles that contribute little, the armament is speculative although adjusted to the canons of the Luftwaffe, the missiles were very recent and the 30mm guns are Shown in some some dibjos and the little information that I have read. That is why in this section "Artwork" and not in the more specific themes.
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Modelling Forum / Re: Avro z-101
« Last post by Jemiba on July 25, 2017, 10:17:17 pm »
Did that "thing" ( :o) could flying ???

Aerodynamically it's not too different from the Nord "Harpon", I think, see
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1891.msg65306.html#msg65306
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Modelling Forum / Re: Avro z-101
« Last post by Tonton-42 on July 25, 2017, 12:01:52 pm »
I am thinking of doing a model of this unbuilt subject. Attached is a photo of the Blue Steel that i added a cockpit to for inspiration. would have been a nightmare to fly 
started a small model some spare model rocket parts and some plastic. not very scale but close.all primed and ready for details and paint

Hello !

Did that "thing" ( :o) could flying ??? But it is a really original model ! Almost a subject for Whatifer ...

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Tonton
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Designation Systems / Re: Canadair Designations
« Last post by hesham on July 25, 2017, 04:21:11 am »
My dear Apophenia,

but for CC-106 & CP-107,they were appeared in 1962 & 1963,although we will
wait to see the pages of those designation to can judge well.
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Designation Systems / Re: Canadair Designations
« Last post by Apophenia on July 24, 2017, 04:28:08 pm »
I suspect on that,in JAWA 1963 index a reference to CL-106  & CL-107,and also they mention CC-106
and CP-107 as anther designs ?.

Hesham: With "CL-106" and "CL-107", JAWA mistakeningly assumed that Canadair designation and Department of National Defence designations were directly related. They weren't (at least not in any methodical way).

CC-106 and CP-107 were strictly military designations for two of Canadair's Britannia-based designs. The CC-106 Yukon military transport was the Canadair CL-44-6 (4 x Roll-Royce Tyne 11s). The CP-107 Argus maritime patrol aircraft was the Canadair CL-28 (4 x Wright R-3350 TC18EA1).
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Theoretical and Speculative Projects / Re: Fictional Warships - Novels
« Last post by Graham1973 on July 24, 2017, 03:07:54 pm »
Stephen Coonts, Cuba, 1999

United States

USS United States (CVN-???)
Nimitz Class Carrier
Details as per the real ships
Note:  Original name of 8th Nimitz Class Carrier. This ship launched as USS Harry S. Truman (CVN-75) in September 1996. See also the entry for 'Final Flight' and the post by Grey Havoc that follows for more details.

USS Kearsage (LHD-3)
Wasp Class Amphibious Assault Ship
Real ship, details as in service.

USS Hué City (CG-65)
Ticonderoga Class Cruiser
Real ship, details as in service.

USS Guildford Courthouse (CG-??)
Ticonderoga Class Cruiser
Details as per the real ships.

Note: Both ships are fitted with 'SM-2 Tactical Aegis Lightweight ExoAtmospheric Projectile' ABM missiles (Each ship carries 8).

USS Comte de Grasse (DD-974)
Spruance Class Destroyer
Real ship, details as in service
Note: This ship was decommissioned in 1998, the year before the novel came out. She was finally disposed of in 2006.

Unnamed
Two Spruance Class Destroyers

Unnamed
Destroyer, class not specified

Unnamed
Submarine, class not specified

Cuba

Unnamed
Gunboat, class not specified
No other details provided.

Plot summary: It is the day after tomorrow. As Castro nears death (In real life he died in 2016.), it is revealed that following the Cuban Missile crisis in the 60's the Russians had in fact installed several missiles on the island which they left in place, still in working order, their nuclear warheads have been replaced with powerful biological agents. As a vicious power struggle develops in Cuba over the succession, the United States finds itself forced to act to prevent their use.

Note: The author gives no clue as to just what year the story is set, so the 'near future' relative to date of publication rule applies in this case.
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