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Tupolev post 1945 combat aircraft projects
« on: September 27, 2006, 11:23:12 am »
Hi,

the Tupolev Tu-129 was front bomber,Tu-200 strategic bomber,Tu-225 strategic bomber,
Tu-325 supersonic bomber and Tu-1020 supersonic ailiner.
 
                                    have anyone drawings to them ?!
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Re: Tupolev post 1945 combat aircraft projects
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2006, 12:36:03 pm »
Can be found in Tony Buttler's "Soviet Secret Bombers", with the exception of
the Tu 1020.
But I've found a faked photo of the Tu 200, made in the pre-photo shop era
(Aviation Week .2.54). Quite good work for this time, I think ...

 
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Re: Tupolev post 1945 combat aircraft projects
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2006, 11:56:46 am »
Dear Jemiba,

the Tupolev Tu-200 was a supersonic strategic bomber as I read in the Internet,
but for Tu-1020 ,it was also from Internet,but I don't remember the name of
the site.

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Re: Tupolev post 1945 combat aircraft projects
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2006, 12:08:33 pm »
"Tu-200" was a made up Western designation. The actual Tupolev heavy bomber projects were 485, 471, 473, 474 with 6 to 8 engines.

129 was a late 50s light bomber (between Su-7 and Tu-98 in size) resembling the Thunderchief.
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Re: Tupolev post 1945 combat aircraft projects
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2006, 10:40:11 pm »
I will dig on weekend my archive, seems I have pretty much of 3-views of these Tupolev's Big Sticks projects.
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Re: Tupolev post 1945 combat aircraft projects
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2006, 12:56:35 pm »
Thanks overscan,

but in russian book about bombers there are many projects,such as;Tu-127 front bomber,
Tu-124 extra low altitude bomber,Tu-134 low altitude bomber and Yak-35 MV bomber.


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Re: Tupolev post 1945 combat aircraft projects
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2006, 05:00:18 pm »
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the Tupolev Tu-200 was a supersonic strategic bomber as I read in the Internet

Dear Hesham...I think some of your internet sources are not always consistent. You'll find the 200 3-view on page 14 Soviet Secret Projects (Tony Buttler). There not many pics of Tupolev 485-487-489 series but you can find all on Air Fleet magazine ( I can find the reference if you need it).
Also in the bastion encyclopedia can be found 3 views from Tu-200 (2 different models), 485 and 489.

http://www.aviapress.com/viewonekit.htm?BST-010




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Re: Tupolev post 1945 combat aircraft projects
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2006, 05:28:20 pm »
Besides which, I highly suggest getting hold of Soviet Secret Projects: Jet Bombers. It has all the information you need.
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Re: Tupolev post 1945 combat aircraft projects
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2006, 12:24:13 pm »
My dear Overscan,

yes those books have a great projects of bombers,such as Tu-108 intercontinental
bomber based on Tu-22 and Tu-109 intercontinental supersonic bomber,
but there is also a little known projects:Mig-10 transport aircraft,Mig-121
19-passenger transport aircraft,Mig-210 supersonic airliner and Mig-2000
canard delta wing advance fighter of 1980s.
and anther aircraft I cann't identify them; the Ilyushin IL-74 and IL-300.
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Re: Tupolev post 1945 combat aircraft projects
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2006, 11:03:20 am »
"Tu-200" was a made up Western designation. The actual Tupolev heavy bomber projects were 485, 471, 473, 474 with 6 to 8 engines.

To add is a project with non-confirmed designation '489' (i.e. it was but Rigmant could not dig it). Two versions of Tu-200 legend inspiration exist, one is leak of 485/487/489 projects info to the West (meanwhile, very limited circles had access to those studies), second is planned leak to let US think that Soviet Union's  big sticks are here to come to cool some heads in Washington. Here is 485 and 489 illustrations, plus two fantasy pics from western sources.
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Re: Tupolev post 1945 combat aircraft projects
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2007, 12:57:25 pm »
Hesham, do you have some additional info about Tu-100? It sounds interesting.

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Re: Tupolev post 1945 combat aircraft projects
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2007, 02:38:19 pm »
I have info from Airfleet magazine. I'm going to search for it tomorrow

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Re: Tupolev post 1945 combat aircraft projects
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2007, 11:49:28 am »
Dear Pometablava,

Please tell us the informations about Tu-100.

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Re: Tupolev post 1945 combat aircraft projects
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2007, 01:37:24 pm »
108 and its 100 parasite (both are just one of myriad iterations studied)
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Re: Tupolev post 1945 combat aircraft projects
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2007, 03:51:07 pm »
I'm sorry for my delay but I spent the weekend out :)

Here's the info:

Sources:

1.Airfleet magazine, article from Vladimir Rigmant (can't identify the issue, the tittle is: Predecesors of the famous Blackjack).
2.Soviet Secret Projects Bombers since 1945. Buttler/Gordon

As flateric told, there are many configurations for parasite aircraft 100 but also for its carrier aicraft 108 and 109.
On 30th July 1954, the Tupolev design bureau was authorised to develop and build a strategic supersonic combined strike aircraft system. The same directive stipulated that Myasishchev to design a similar system (it seems that they research toke them to the M-50 and M-52 bombers). Official designation was "Combined Long-Range Bomber". It was to comprise the 108 carrier  powered by 6 VD-5M and 100 bomber with 2 AM-11M. Expected range for the "combined" was 14000 Km. After release (well outside enemy defences) and attack, both aircraft could return to base.
Several versions for 108 aircraft were considered including one deltawinged with 4 P-8 turboprop engines and one with ramjets.
A bomber version of 108 was also considered (Initial deliveries were considered possible by 1957) while an alternative carriers for the 100 could have been the Tu-95 or Tu-96.

The 108 version powered with 4 NK-6 was choosen to go ahead in March 1956 with testing phase rescheduled for 1959. The final configuration was to be developed by Valentin Bliznyuk. Aircraft 100 manned and unmanned versions would be considered and its deffinitive powerplant was to the D-20 turbofan

The project was cancelled in 1958 with the advent of the ICBM era.

Tupolev 100 tech data

Span: 12,5 m
Lenght: 23,7 m
Max weight: 31 000 Kg
Max speed: 1500 Km/h
Bomb load: 1250 Kg