Submersible aircraft

[pometablava]

SAAB 1376: "U-plan" was also in this series (a variable geometry turborocket submersible M 2 fighter

Matej, do you have more info or pics about this beast?

[pometablava]

From the superb book (lots of unbuilt projects): Cold War Submarines by Norman Polmar and KJ Moore. Brassey's ISBN: 1-57488-594-4

This is the only submersible aircraft I have drawings, the Convair "submersible seaplane" from 1964. It was cancelled in 1966.

I know that Dassault also developed a "submersible seaplane" but it was not a sub-hunter as that Convair's design. Dassault vehicle was a shuttle to link submarine facilities either civil or military. Sub-cities never materialized so the submersible seaplane remained on the drawing board. I'll try to draw what I remember from that pic I saw when I was younger and post it here.

Cheers
Antonio

[Matej]

Matej, do you have more info or pics about this beast?

Its my wish to see it. Here is what I found so far about submersible aircrafts...

First was B. P. Ushakov with its submersible plane LPL from 1934. On the other side of the Pacific the first inventor was Houston Harrington (known more as owner of music company). He influenced Donald V. Reid, who built and tested (!) his own flying submarine RFS-1. Now this plane is in Mid Atlantic Aviation Museum in Pensilvania, but my asking for some pictures from museum stuff went nowhere.

[Matej]

Pometablava - pictures that you posted are fakes. They are from 1962 issue of Air Progress. They were published before official drawings, so they are pure fantasy.

I have another interesting fantasy - project of submersible fighter that was printed in many aviation magazines in 1967. It had two independent propulsion systems. It was also used in book from Jean Jacques Antier named Operation avion sous-marin.

My drawing shows, how real Convair submersible aircraft should look like. Everything here from my still unpublished web update.

[pometablava]

Pometablava - pictures that you posted are fakes. They are from 1962 issue of Air Progress. They were published before official drawings, so they are pure fantasy.

Thanks for the info and the pics Matej

Well, it seems that even the most reputed writers (Norman Polmar) are not perfect

[pometablava]

I know that Dassault also developed a "submersible seaplane" but it was not a sub-hunter as that Convair's design. Dassault vehicle was a shuttle to link submarine facilities either civil or military. Sub-cities never materialized so the submersible seaplane remained on the drawing board. I'll try to draw what I remember from that pic I saw when I was younger and post it here.

This is the sketch I draw today from what I remember. Anybody can show a drawing of the real thing?. Perhaps Archibald or Tophe...have you ever seen this project in the pages of Science et Vie?. I would like to know the date of this design...

Any help will be of great value for me. Thanks

[boxkite]

Here is more stuff. Artwork and sketches come from "Samolyot i podvodnaya lodka" by Lesnichenko & Gusev (ISBN 5817200538, Sankt Peterburg, 2001).

Let me know if identification is possible. Designers resp. manufacturers Beriev, Popadales and Reid are speculations.

[pometablava]

Danke schön my Dear Friend!. Totally new for me

[boxkite]

Two further artist's impressions from the same publication.

[Archibald]

Dont forget the Espadon from professor Mortimer

[Matej]

Pictures named "Reid Airship 1968" and "Submersible Plane 1" seems to be the same plane as from book Operation avion sous-marin.

[amsci99]

Here is more stuff. Artwork and sketches come from "Samolyot i podvodnaya lodka" by Lesnichenko & Gusev (ISBN 5817200538, Sankt Peterburg, 2001).

Let me know if identification is possible. Designers resp. manufacturers Beriev, Popadales and Reid are speculations.

This seems to be an interesting publication, are the contents mainly on unbuilt project aircraft? Thanks.

[boxkite]

Built and unbuilt ones. I had only the chance to borrow the book making some scans. Unfortunately it's not in my own bookshelf (to have more time for a partially translation).

[XB-35]

hi All,

I'm looking for infos (drawings, prints) about some projected aircraft that can turn into a submarine.

I've already seen an illustration about a Convair project from the 60's (?) of that kind of "aircraft".

However, I don't known if there were other projects and if mockups were built ?

Thanks for the info,

All the Best,

XB-35

[pometablava]

Take a look at "Submarines with Wings by Terry Treadwell" ISBN: 0 85177 3699.